Please just give us a non-graphics update option for DT

[zipkin]

They look fine.

Hi there, I see you posting in these threads a bit. Can I ask you to test something out, as a favor? Would you mind popping into your character creator and opening up your save of the cute Au Ra you have in your profile? I'd like you to go through each of the options/sliders (except for tattoos/face paint, that seems a bit much, and hair style can stay too) and move all of them (eyes, mouth, jaw, all the colors, etc) one option to the right/down. If you are already as far right/down as you can go for that option, move it back to the first option.

While I am sure that the resulting character would probably 'look fine', I think it would not look much like YOUR character. I believe you would feel unhappy if you were told you would be keeping your character, and then you logged in and this new character was waiting for you instead of your WoL. They look fine. They do not look like your WoL. You are able to change them, but you cannot change them back to the character design you had before, the one you've had for years, the one you've leveled through the MSQ and all the way to 100. Maybe if only the mouth changed, you might be willing to tolerate it. Maybe even that would spoil something you loved about your character. Maybe cutscenes would feel off. Maybe you wouldn't like to gpose anymore. Maybe you'd want to find a way to change that one small thing back to how it was, back to what you chose for your character in the first place, back to the design you selected and have loved for years.

This is what people are unhappy about. The graphics might (mostly) 'look fine', but they are not the characters people have played and loved for years. That is why so many of us are unhappy. I am glad you are happy with how your character turned out (don't look too close at her scales/horns tho for real), and that doesn't mean other people are happy with how different their characters are. This is meant to be a feedback forum. No one is trying to take your character from you. We're unhappy that it feels our characters were taken from us. If it is possible to get our characters back, without taking yours away, how is that a problem for you? Why shouldn't everyone get a chance to be happy with the update?

[Valkret]

I'm sorry to say this. But you guys are the loud minority when it comes to this. The majority of people are praising the graphical and character updates. Updates like this are a necessity for the longevity of the game. Chances of SE reverting these changes or adding an option to remove them are probably 0.

[FudoMyoo]

Nonsensical request.

Just play around & tweak your gfx settings.

[Anarnee]

I really hated what they did to my character's old (Female Roegadyn) face. It's obvious they completely changed the face geometry to make it more rounded, smooth, and "human" for the sake of realism, but she wasn't human and it's a fantasy game, so realism is poor goal to strive for. Even so I probably could have gotten used to the changes, but the graphics update also make the dark hair too light and added a sweaty sheen to the skin, which might not be inappropriate for the climate of Tural but I don't want it all the time.

I fantasia'd to a Hrothgar which I am liking so far. At least the fuzzy skin texture doesn't have the sweat shine.

This is how I feel about what they did to Femroe. I really don't understand why they'd make the choice to make everything so round. It's ugly, it makes their noses look bulbous instead of sharp, the hellguard lost their nose smudge, and all of the eyes changed for the worst.

I'm trying to get use to it. I finished the MSQ on my main and I feel robbed of the experience of getting to go on an adventure with her.

Some characters look so good, but then you look at the femroe and they look waxy and fake. I've even noticed a weird glitch where the forehead pulses when you use certain emotes. Everything about them feels haphazardly put together.

[Cyrtip]

Nonsensical request.

Just play around & tweak your gfx settings.

Turning off SSAO did make the cheeks on my character look 2% less sunken when I'm in any lighting that isnt absolutely perfect, but 2% less terrible is still terrible. Turning it off even comes at the massive cost of making lighting on every object around you more flat and ugly.
There's no GFX option (What this thread is literally asking for) to un-plump her once sharp face, to fix the awful shadows that cast on the new mesh (Turning shadows off entirely for your character makes their mouth and eyelids glow), to remove the overbearing gloss on her lipstick-less face, to return her eye shape to the radically different one it once was, among many other graphical regressions forced on the players.
Sure, I don't doubt the graphics "update" is one from a technical standpoint, but stylistically, this is more of a regression than 1.0 -> 2.0. The style of the characters moved further towards realism where it was previously stylized, and now things like the mouth and eyes look uncanny.
ARR-EW environments were a 7/10, DT's updated environments are an 8/10.
ARR-EW character appearances were an 8/10, DT's "updated" character appearances are a 5/10.
Not worth the time or money spent.

I dont even care if this feature gets added with the caveat that I can't wear headgear or use hair made 7.0 and onwards. I couldn't care less if the devs give the "old characters" option zero support. Cyrtip got beat with the ugly stick.

[Saya8008]

No, please do not do this. Do not roll back anything.

[Saya8008]

Considering the game also now causes quite a bit of eye strain for some people (including me), having the new graphics toggleable feels like a necessity. We literally can't play the game as it is now.

Oh, and the game also now runs a lot worse on PS4, and is almost unplayable on lower-end PCs that used to run it with 60 fps.

Of course it runs worse, the minimum requirements have gone up. I see people complaining their 1070 struggles to run the game at 1440p. Of course it does. Upgrade your 20 year old PC.

[Saya8008]

I would like nothing more than to go back to the old character design

If not buying Dawntrail didn't give me the character update, I wouldn't buy it
If I could pay to go back, I would pay for it

There is no update, no content, nothing I want more than the chance to go back now

It's not going to happen. I would suggest getting used to that idea.

[Cyrtip]

Please just give us a non-graphics updateoption for DT

No, please do not do this. Do not roll back anything.

You didn't even read the thread title...

I would suggest getting used to that idea.

Personally, Ive been trying to get used to the new character graphics, wish I could. They still look rather ugly. The way the harsh lighting falls on the face combined with the new model having very pronounced eye bags, the way the lower cheeks are always shadowed and look sunken in, the permanently glossy photorealistic lips on the otherwise stylized anime face (I could go on...). That last gripe with the lips is like looking at animals with human teeth. Eerie.

What do you like about the character graphics update?

The only thing they've done right in my eyes is improve the resolution of the hair (Which now aggressively changes shade in different lighting conditions). Everything else was a stylistic change/replacement, and not an upscale of the previous look. I used to be able to choose between eyes(insert any other facial feature here as well) 1, 2, 3, or 4. With Dawntrail, all four of those options have been removed, and I can choose between the newly added 5, 6, 7, and 8.

I made a character I liked, then this update took that character away and gave me a different one. If I hadn't liked Cyrtip to begin with, she would have never been made. This update is either a product of negligence or stupidity, either they weren't willing to "maintain character impressions," or they wanted to appeal to a mythical wider audience.

[Conando]

I seriously doubt that's even possible without a lot of work. DT areas were already designed with the new graphics in mind.