[Feedback] Wuk Lamat's English Voice

[Nestama]

I mean to be fair the DEI thing not really bait when there is sufficient evidence of it failing aka forspoken being one of the examples. If there exist proof to prove points and ppl state them i believe it should be pointed to...sweet baby inc has not been helping to clean the image.

Thats me just saying if your gonna talk on this subject please please use evidence to back ur claims he not wrong this is getting tiresome seeing ppl label each other cause aka no counter arguments.

If you like the voice good on you. Just don't pretend ppl not suppose to voice opinion. Allot of you and you know who you are need to seriously chill out. It's just a game. If ppl disagree with it, who are you to threaten, label, and slander said person for not liking something.

Remember if you dont like zenos that make you a racist....we all know how much ppl hate zenos XD

Bringing up DEI and Sweet Baby Inc at all is just grifter nonsense to me. Forspoken did not fail because of "DEI reasons," and if you genuinely believe that, I have no kind words for you.

I don't need to back up my claims with proof, as I have yet to see any proof whatsoever that isn't just "it makes the most sense." Shall we play adlibs or telephone next to see what nonsense we can make up.

First sentence in the quote: "and that's your opinion and that's perfectly fine." I just do not understand why people need to find any kind of excuse to hate a person who they do not even know beyond a select few tweets all because they were not satisfied with their performance in a game they play.

[Isseki]

I just do not understand why people need to find any kind of excuse to hate a person who they do not even know beyond a select few tweets all because they were not satisfied with their performance in a game they play.

I mean, doesnt every group does the same? How many people look at the past of others to say: ''Wow, look what this one said X years ago'', or how people take stuff out of context just to ruin someones image.
Why should the VA not get the same treatment? Especially when we all know that this is the favourite weapon of the tolerant media. *shrugs*

BTW people that have a dislike for the VA not do it because they are not satisfied, they do it because the VA is so bad that it ruined the expansion for them.

[Gilihere]

Frankly, compared to the whole set of voice actors, wuk lamats EN VA is lacking.
Delivery is weak, accent is forced and direction in general is nowhere to be found, comparing to the rest of EN cast its just unfair to the other VA's at this point.

Obviously, it isn't just a DEI issue the characther's writing has much to do with it as well, but it is the most glaring one and people will latch on to it.

That said to the people that like her, it is ok to like her, you have your reasons that may or not be valid but don't dismiss concerns other people may have as some kind of contrarianism (it isnt a phobia LOL), if you have to resort to name calling to prove a point, then you are doing it wrong.

[dezzmont]

Part of the problem is the poor voice actress basically had to put on a one woman show, as Wuk Lamat had way more voicelines than any other character. Wuk Lamat had more than twice as many words spoken as the next most prominent character, and 7 times most of the main cast. She had around 2 times more lines than Alisae, Krile, and Erenville, characters who basically were with us the entire expansion, combined. Like she literally carried half a feature film by herself in terms of dialogue spoken, much of it playing off a mute protagonist, which is not at all enviable.

Its truly hard to express how ridiculous a 7,000 word script is. I am not surprised that some line reads weren't the best (though I am very suspicious of the voice direction overall) or that she eventually started to grate on people when she had just such a wild amount of dialogue. I actually found she did really well in any scene where she had to play into some emotion or action, but I got the sense that at a certain point she fell into a rut with 'default Wuk brash hopeful voice' where some reads were pretty flat, and others were fine or even quite good.

[RabendaShin]

Bringing up DEI and Sweet Baby Inc at all is just grifter nonsense to me. Forspoken did not fail because of "DEI reasons," and if you genuinely believe that, I have no kind words for you.

I don't need to back up my claims with proof, as I have yet to see any proof whatsoever that isn't just "it makes the most sense." Shall we play adlibs or telephone next to see what nonsense we can make up.

First sentence in the quote: "and that's your opinion and that's perfectly fine." I just do not understand why people need to find any kind of excuse to hate a person who they do not even know beyond a select few tweets all because they were not satisfied with their performance in a game they play.

"Don't keep bringing up DEI, it's nonsense, and people who mention it are dumb."
Please stop bringing it up constantly yourself then? Every time any criticism regarding Sena Bryer is posted, it is deflected by just yelling louder about people unabashedly disliking her for her mere presence.

There are plenty of reasons to dislike the performance of the 'professional' voice actor Sena Bryer:
- Her objectively low quality of script delivery.
- Displaying a lack of range compared to other voice actors reading the same script.
- Toxic and hateful messages posted on public forums while representing FFXIV as voicing the main character of Dawntrail.
- Disingenous statements and claims, again made on public forums as what can be viewed as a representative of FFXIV.

None of these reasons are in any way directly related to her being hired for the part because of DEI. All of these examples have proof, because such is the internet nowadays. You don't even need to dig deep. The people who dislike the English performance for Wuk Lamat don't need to find excuses, there are more than enough legitimate reasons to make a case against the hiring of this voice actor.

Having finished the Dawntrail MSQ, I expected a better performance for the character with the most voiced lines. The argument of "It's just a game" doesn't fly - It's a game many of us have enjoyed for the quality of its English voice acting. I have personally recommended Endwalker to friends and random people on the internet because of this.

Yes, I am playing in Japanese now, but that's not what I wanted: I wanted to hear Erenville and G'raha and Y'shtola as I enjoyed them in previous expansions. Sena Bryer's voice acting has ruined my (and many other people's) enjoyment of something we were looking forward to.

Imagine ordering your favorite dessert in a restaurant you love, and the head chef walks in and covers your treat in Surströmming right before you take a bite. Yes, the dessert is there, but would you still consume the whole thing or would you ask for a replacement? Other, less patient people, will just walk out and never come back.
Their favorite dessert is now forever covered in fermented herring. It is a permanent change to the recipe.

[Themarvin]

She is fine, I am happy am free from that perfect english, which suck and make it really making one to fall asleep... its nice with some kind of off world approcah to things, and I think people are trying to find problems where there is none.

[Raven2014]

After going through the MSQ for the 4th time (yeah, bite me), the first in Japanese, 2nd in English, third in French and the fourth in English once more, I think I can deliver my final verdict on Wuk's voice.


tl;dr: it's not as bad as I originally believed.


I don't know if it's simply the matter of getting use to it on the 2nd run, but at worst, she sounds alright most of the time. Heck, I can even say her surprise and self-decribating voices are even good from time to time. A twist of irony, I thin Wuk sounds best when she delivery Lyse's typical lines. The main issue of Wuk English voice mostly contained in line she does inside of battlesceen (her infamous line during the entry of the last trail still makes my ear bleed, used to it or not). But I feel perhap, being just "alright" in itself a problem. Wuk probably would be fine if she were a side character. But to be the main character of the story who has double presence of the next character in line, you can't afford to be just "alright", you have to be even more than good, you have to be great. Especially when she's being presented to an audience who have been used listening to theatrical trained VAs for the better half of a decade.


But I have to gush about the French voice, it actually floored me. I can't believe I'm saying this but ... the French VAs sound even better than the Japanese VAs for me. It's not just Wuk, but almost everyone sound miles better, especially toward the ends and during crisis, battles, dungeons .etc. The deliver has a sense of urgency that I feel sorely lack from the English VAs. Instead of the typical anime sweetie style in the Japanese voice, Sphene's French voice has a tint of ... majestic and regal to it. In another word, she sounds like actual royalty. And Wuk ... when she came in for the last scene after the final battle to bid us goodbye, she was ... good, Great even. There were an air of authority and maturity in her voice, it sounds like the kind of voice someone has after they have gone through great trial and tribulation. I had to pause and look at her character model and face again, and thought to my self "yep, this voice suit you well, you sound like a leader now!"


I still think Wuk's writing as a whole is so bad that even a god-like VA will not be able to save her character, but if people's first impression of her came from the French VA, there is a good chance it would have been less harsh. To anyone who have problem with English VA while thinking Japanese VA is too weebo for their liking, I highly recommend trying out French. You probably would recognize about half of the vocabularies given the similarity of the languages. If I'm still around when 8.0 drop, my first run will definitely be in French.

[AkaeiNox]

Yup I was actually suprised by the french dub this time around. (Native, only other language I can understand beside English) :P

[Zakuyia]

Bringing up DEI and Sweet Baby Inc at all is just grifter nonsense to me. Forspoken did not fail because of "DEI reasons," and if you genuinely believe that, I have no kind words for you.

I don't need to back up my claims with proof, as I have yet to see any proof whatsoever that isn't just "it makes the most sense." Shall we play adlibs or telephone next to see what nonsense we can make up.

First sentence in the quote: "and that's your opinion and that's perfectly fine." I just do not understand why people need to find any kind of excuse to hate a person who they do not even know beyond a select few tweets all because they were not satisfied with their performance in a game they play.

I mean whether you like it or not evidence proves it. Thats the problem lately. Many of you want evidence to back up claims yet when presented with said evidence ypu squawk louder to blot out claims cause it either my way or highway.

We wouldn't need to bring this stuff up if game industry wasn't making a clown of themselves on daily honestly same with wuk lamat voice actor. If ppl weren't so quick to weaponize a person sexuality many of us me included would not have known the person was trans. Ppl trying to be quick to defend with dumb claims why that kinda stuff get brought up at times.....naw for me tho the va just sucks at acting

[ZephyrMenodora]

After going through the MSQ for the 4th time (yeah, bite me), the first in Japanese, 2nd in English, third in French and the fourth in English once more, I think I can deliver my final verdict on Wuk's voice.

If you managed to stomach going through the MSQ 4 times in 2 or 2.5 weeks you are a special person indeed.