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    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ririta View Post
    It's easy when you have 6+ years of stories setting it up.
    SHB wouldn't be good if ARR didn't present us the ascians and garleans (and yall love to complain about ARR)
    SHB wouldn't be good if HW didn't start the multiple shard and the warrior of darkness plotline.
    SHB wouldn't be good if SB didn't Varian didn't go to war in Ghimlyt Dark and state that he wants to destroy the world.

    What did EW leave for DT? Nothing. It spent all of its patches telling a non-consequential (for now) void story. DT had to start everything up from scratch, something that not even ARR had to (1.0 had Bahamut bring a calamity and ARR starts there).

    That DT turned out as good as it did after it had every disavantage is a miracle. DT is excellent, it not only tells us the story it set out to tell, but it also laid out a new story to explore. All that without trouncing everything that built FFXIV, like EW and SHB (to a lesser extent) did.



    Yeah, make a main thread like we did for EW. I'm not even checking this board daily anymore because it's the same thing on loop, it's boring.
    Bullcrap. I'm so tired of this "It doesn't have enough setup!" when they could have taken their time setting it up instead of speeding through any plot points. We were told this was supposed to be a vacation. It very well could have been a low stakes, expansion long vacation, where we got to know Tural, and their people, and their culture, and then used that build up to give us a reason to care when the Alexandrian stuff happened. We didn't need to have a multi-world ending threat dropped on us at level ninety-effing-five. They took FIVE LEVELS before they threw out everything, and went "Suddenly, the fire nation attacked."

    The story didn't fail because it didn't have buildup. The story failed because the F-Tier writing team couldn't be assed to build up.
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    Ririta Rita
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Bullcrap. I'm so tired of this "It doesn't have enough setup!" when they could have taken their time setting it up instead of speeding through any plot points. We were told this was supposed to be a vacation. It very well could have been a low stakes, expansion long vacation, where we got to know Tural, and their people, and their culture, and then used that build up to give us a reason to care when the Alexandrian stuff happened.
    But that's literally what they did... I mean, there were people on this very board complaining that it spent too much time with the low stakes setup of Tural before the Alexandria stuff started, to the point where they'd compare it with ARR.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Bullcrap. I'm so tired of this "It doesn't have enough setup!" when they could have taken their time setting it up instead of speeding through any plot points. We were told this was supposed to be a vacation. It very well could have been a low stakes, expansion long vacation, where we got to know Tural, and their people, and their culture, and then used that build up to give us a reason to care when the Alexandrian stuff happened. We didn't need to have a multi-world ending threat dropped on us at level ninety-effing-five. They took FIVE LEVELS before they threw out everything, and went "Suddenly, the fire nation attacked."

    The story didn't fail because it didn't have buildup. The story failed because the F-Tier writing team couldn't be assed to build up.
    Like Endwalker, it really needed to be 2 different expansions instead of one.
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