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  1. #21
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    I never got bored this quickly before.. but I will be back after next patch to see if this can get me back on track

    bozja and eureka is done.. i farmed all deep dungeon before dawntrail so I can have time for next big thing (I was so delusional)
    Well there is no harm in taking a few weeks break until the next patch to see what savage does for you. Personally, the normal mode content is engaging enough mechanically for me to where I don't actually mind the jobs feeling of same-y, but this is personal preference, really. That said, Viper is some of the most fun I have had with a combat class in a long time.

    I suppose a few of my last suggestions would be Fishing and Achievement Hunting -- I know that Achievement Hunting is a very niche, and personally I am only doing it casually, but it still has me diversifying in most facets of the game, to the point where, if I get tired of, say, levelling jobs, then I can go out and do some fishing, some triple triad, hunts, etc.,

    As for fishing, I have only dabbled in this from time-to-time, but it's more one of the most diverse facets of the game, since folklore fish have such varying conditions, where some of them may be simple, and more others may be more complex and requires small optimizations to catch them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ruris View Post
    I have just stopped playing Dawntrail. I left it somewhere in Solution 9 a week ago after seeing to the ill child. I think under circumstances of even a midling story, Solution 9 would have enraptured me and hooked me in to keep playing to the end. I can't even enjoy that. Wuk Lamat will probably go down as my most despised FF character in history. She has utterly tainted the legacy of FFXIV. I'm being dramatic about it, but my story MMO has been sorta ruined, and when your honeymoon is ruined in the honeymoon phase, you get to be a little dramatic about it.
    You aren't necessarily being too dramatic. Honeymoon phase or not, the handling of that character has soiled Dawntrail pretty hard. Be as dramatic as you want. I know I've personally always tried to find neutral ground on the story, but this wasn't possible in the case of Dawntrail.

    I just hope that the developers look back to what has made every other character interesting, and characters with staying power for years, upon years. It isn't by brute forcing that character like nothing else, but all of the subtleties across the way, the succinct manner in which they told those characters' stories, either through other characters, or state of affairs that may otherwise conflict with the goals and aims of what that character sets out to do. E.g., Wuk's motivation to bring peace for Tuliyollal fell near enough on deaf ears to me, since there was no hardship nor grief struck until much later in the story - and well, when we're 'involved' in pushing that character into succession then it is already a predetermined outcome.
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  2. #22
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    It's not just you, OP. Yawntrail is really, REALLY bad. The job "changes" don't change much of anything, the story is irredeemable, the music is all over the place, and it's probably the most miserable experience I have had in any expansion in any MMO.
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  3. #23
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    Madeye Moxie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    It's not just you, OP. Yawntrail is really, REALLY bad. The job "changes" don't change much of anything, the story is irredeemable, the music is all over the place, and it's probably the most miserable experience I have had in any expansion in any MMO.
    Agreed. This is the first time where the expansion has me just...not even bothering to log in. I hit level 100 but haven't finished the MSQ because I can only handle it for an hour or so before I am so frustrated and bored that I leave the game.

    I've been here since ARR launched, have a house, and 8(yes really) characters with classes at 90....and I just don't have any motivation or desire to play. This expansion feels so flat that I have been playing GW2 instead of logging into FFXIV.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhysati View Post
    Agreed. This is the first time where the expansion has me just...not even bothering to log in. I hit level 100 but haven't finished the MSQ because I can only handle it for an hour or so before I am so frustrated and bored that I leave the game.

    I've been here since ARR launched, have a house, and 8(yes really) characters with classes at 90....and I just don't have any motivation or desire to play. This expansion feels so flat that I have been playing GW2 instead of logging into FFXIV.
    people said that this expansion is the same as every expansion since existing..

    but I wasn't bored with shadowbringer not even endwalker(atleast until 6.3)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    It's not just you, OP. Yawntrail is really, REALLY bad. The job "changes" don't change much of anything, the story is irredeemable, the music is all over the place, and it's probably the most miserable experience I have had in any expansion in any MMO.
    A-actually it is you! You're not enjoying it, because you actually enjoy it
    It's what they call "post-expansion" lull, so you have to wait for the next patch. You had your fun. Don't be greedy now! The investors!
    Your friends are quitting because they're having fun, and Yoshi-P said to play other games, so actually this was the grand plan all along

    It's post expansion lull, it's the return to normal now, the subscribers are lowering because covid might be coming back... some guy in madagascar is coughing, that's the reason you're not having fun. The weather has changed so the game might be becoming less fun for you
    It-s not the game, I p-p-promise!

    ... right?
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  6. #26
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    It's interesting to see people continously comment on Wuk Lamat as though we did not just have Zero "Ruining" Endwalker. Between that and StB I'm pretty sure the general audience of this game just, for whatever reason, doesn't want a semi main character outshining the WoL. It was just ok for Ardbert I guess because he wasn't there that much and well, the other obvious factor between him and the aforementioned characters.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    It's interesting to see people continously comment on Wuk Lamat as though we did not just have Zero "Ruining" Endwalker. Between that and StB I'm pretty sure the general audience of this game just, for whatever reason, doesn't want a semi main character outshining the WoL. It was just ok for Ardbert I guess because he wasn't there that much and well, the other obvious factor between him and the aforementioned characters.
    If they just continue the story of Zero I think it would not be worst than what we got this expansion
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    If they just continue the story of Zero I think it would not be worst than what we got this expansion
    Fair and true lol

    They didn't know how we good we had it.
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    The upcoming PvP changes in 7.1 will probably make or break it to me.

    I'll just go to story only player and sub once per expansion if they don't throw a bone like fully augmentable PvP set or ridiculous multi top 100 grind for Crystalline Legend or whatever.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post

    I think if you didn't like the story but that is actually the main reason for playing it's the worst case scenario for the game right now.
    Yes, that would be me. I come back 2-3 months before the expansion launches (depending on how much I have left to do) and play through that and then play for a couple weeks post expansion until after I finish the msq and anything that jumps out at me that I want to do.

    After that, I might come back once, maybe twice depending on what new stuff has been released this expansion (island sanctuary, blu, etc) until just before the next expansion.

    My mind straight up revolts at the entire notion of a gear treadmill, and I have little to no interest in grinding dungeons or fates. For me story is everything. In every other mmo I never even step foot in a dungeon, I'm 100% into questing only(and was soooo disappointed ng+ didn't offer xp so I could happily level every job through questing here as well).

    So yes, in this game the MSQ is probably 90-95% of the game to me, so dawntrail's craptastic msq has turned out to be worthless to me. No, actually, worse than worthless. I've paid for and played bad games before, that's not really an issue. What is the real issue is the loss of what could have been. I was actually excited for a nice low-stakes expansion, to go back to being a simple adventurer where no one knows me or is expecting anything. Where I can wander around and help random people with their problems and explore and discover cool new places or lost ruins etc.

    Dawntrail basically robbed me of an msq and it will be 4 yrs from endwalker to 8.0 until I get a new one thanks to this hot mess.
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