"Taking a stand" quest

[Craftysloth]

Yep - confirmed. I'm doing this on "very easy" and I looked up a tutorial to make sure I'm doing everything I should be doing and I'm still not able to get passed this absolutely soul sucking quest. I tried it so many times that I had to shut off the game and am wondering when I'll return to it since I can't continue my MSQ without completing it.

Such a shame. Not sure if/when I'll finish the expansion at this point since it seems my skill level isn't good enough to get passed a "very easy" main story quest.

Wow. Just went and read all the condescending comments from everyone who didn't have an issue with this one. That made me feel *fantastic*. Hope you're all feeling boosted after belittling everyone who wasn't able to nail it on their first go and turned to the forums for help.

[Carin-Eri]

Yep - confirmed. I'm doing this on "very easy" and I looked up a tutorial to make sure I'm doing everything I should be doing and I'm still not able to get passed this absolutely soul sucking quest. I tried it so many times that I had to shut off the game and am wondering when I'll return to it since I can't continue my MSQ without completing it.

Such a shame. Not sure if/when I'll finish the expansion at this point since it seems my skill level isn't good enough to get passed a "very easy" main story quest.

Wow. Just went and read all the condescending comments from everyone who didn't have an issue with this one. That made me feel *fantastic*. Hope you're all feeling boosted after belittling everyone who wasn't able to nail it on their first go and turned to the forums for help.

As someone who openly admits that my skill level in this game is unfortunately low, you have my sympathies!

As I noted back on page three, it took me four attempts to pass this quest - two on Normal, one on Very Easy and then passed it on 'Easy'. And again, I do wonder whether the 'Very Easy' option is bugged, as I found the 'Easy' option less problematic than 'Very Easy' personally.
Though I'll add that it's not an experience I'd want to repeat - I've never been a fan of the 'play as another character' mechanic at all. I know why they do it but that doesn't make I have to like it.

That aside, I do hope you can find it in yourself to persist, as it'd be shame to miss out on the remainder of the MSQ. Keep us posted, please? And good luck!

[17cupsofcoffee]

I have absolutely no problem with the idea of them adding a "super easy mode" (accessibility options are always a good thing!), but one thing I haven't really seen mentioned in this thread: the difficulty of this duty is part of the story.

We have already seen Bakool Ja Ja completely outmatch Wuk Lamat earlier in the MSQ, and all of the mechanics of this duty are designed to reflect that - he hits really hard, and you're constantly scrambling around on low health, only managing to hang on because of the strength of your resolve. It's the same idea as 'In From The Cold' in EW (though I'd say that duty was a million times harder than this one) - the devs aren't making these fights hard to be sadistic, they're trying to use them to tell a story.

If people want to skip the fight or reduce the difficulty, fair enough, but I hope the normal mode doesn't get nerfed too hard - I really feel like it would rob it of all narrative impact.

[dwodmots]

I agree that it's more fun to play as your own character than some random NPC, I wouldn't say they're too hard. I'd even go as far as to say they're absolutely trivial. They can be annoying since the rotation is extremely simple, the fights have some weird gimmick (Looking at you, ShB-Thankred and Poochie) and playing as someone else means I can't look at how cute my character is.

I liked the one in EW in Garlemald where you play as a normal soldier for a bit. Really showed the difference in power between average people and the WoL. They got the balance on that right imho, you had to play tactically but if you fought something your attacks still felt impactful (unlike the DT one where Poochies LB does like 1% damage). It also wasn't so long as to overstay it's welcome.

[Emeline]

Yep - confirmed. I'm doing this on "very easy" and I looked up a tutorial to make sure I'm doing everything I should be doing and I'm still not able to get passed this absolutely soul sucking quest. I tried it so many times that I had to shut off the game and am wondering when I'll return to it since I can't continue my MSQ without completing it.

Such a shame. Not sure if/when I'll finish the expansion at this point since it seems my skill level isn't good enough to get passed a "very easy" main story quest.

Wow. Just went and read all the condescending comments from everyone who didn't have an issue with this one. That made me feel *fantastic*. Hope you're all feeling boosted after belittling everyone who wasn't able to nail it on their first go and turned to the forums for help.

Maybe this game isn't for you if you're not able to win a fight that is scripted to be winnable if you know the bare minimum about the mechanics of this game (pressing buttons and avoiding AoE)? I mean, after ARR, HW, SB, ShB and EW, we're supposed to know how to play? It's not like Wuk Lamat is hard to play lmao

[Craftysloth]

Maybe this game isn't for you if you're not able to win a fight that is scripted to be winnable if you know the bare minimum about the mechanics of this game (pressing buttons and avoiding AoE)? I mean, after ARR, HW, SB, ShB and EW, we're supposed to know how to play? It's not like Wuk Lamat is hard to play lmao

Pretty harsh. Maybe this game isn't for you if you're at the point that you're trying to discourage other people from playing on the forums. Seems you might need to make an actual friend and experience some personal growth in the real world. Best of luck to you.

[Jojoya]

If people want to skip the fight or reduce the difficulty, fair enough, but I hope the normal mode doesn't get nerfed too hard - I really feel like it would rob it of all narrative impact.

Normal mode is fine. I don't think it will be adjusted.

The issue seems to be Very Easy isn't functioning as Very Easy. More than one player has come forward to say they were able to beat it on Easy where they couldn't beat it on Very Easy.

So for now I would suggest that anyone struggling with the duty give Easy a try instead of struggling with Very Easy. The patch next week should contain a number of hotfixes and hopefully this duty will be included.

Maybe this game isn't for you if you're not able to win a fight that is scripted to be winnable if you know the bare minimum about the mechanics of this game (pressing buttons and avoiding AoE)? I mean, after ARR, HW, SB, ShB and EW, we're supposed to know how to play? It's not like Wuk Lamat is hard to play lmao

Anyone able to get past the level 92 solo duty knows how to play the game. There is obviously something wrong with the settings for this level 94 duty on Very Easy when players are coming forward to say they could clear on Easy after repeatedly failing on Very Easy.

[Minali]

As someone who openly admits that my skill level in this game is unfortunately low, you have my sympathies!

As I noted back on page three, it took me four attempts to pass this quest - two on Normal, one on Very Easy and then passed it on 'Easy'. And again, I do wonder whether the 'Very Easy' option is bugged, as I found the 'Easy' option less problematic than 'Very Easy' personally.

Honestly, considering many of you all probably have a lot of experience with the Very Easy mode (which is perfectly valid), we had quite many solo duties this expansion and yet it's specifically this one that keeps being mentioned, it might very well be a bug/oversight in fine tuning. Especially when people struggling with "Very Easy" manage the fight on "Easy", which is supposed to be harder.

Maybe consider opening a bug report in the respective forum area or via in game support desk, if you haven't done so already. It's always a bit of a question how much they pay attention to detail in sub forums like this (let alone in "General Discussion"), but they are reading and sorting the ones in the bug area. Same goes for others who had a similar experience or have been stuck and are going to try it on "Easy" soon. (If you have yet to finish this mission - provided you have the option - you can even record it and add this to the report.)

[Craftysloth]

Thanks, Carin-Eri! I just finished the instance. I found it easier to beat on "Easy" instead of "Very Easy". Also I wasn't doing one of the mechanics right even when I really thought I was. The part where he brings down the three damage dealies that you have to stand in? I was standing as far away from as possible to try to avoid getting hit. If you do that part of the fight correctly, it lines you up perfectly for doing the next mechanic! Silly me. Thanks for relating though - I thought I was just that horrible at the game! Glad to know I wasn't alone.

[Syrun]

8.0 is just going to be a visual novel at this point....