Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Cheapshot]

Whether the old models were busted or not is entirely subjective. I think the new models are a massive upgrade over the old ones. You clearly do not and that's okay.



I don't deny there are some subtle differences but I have yet to see the radical, unrecognizable differences that are being claimed. But like I've said before, everyone is entitled to have their own opinion on their character. I was discussing the lighting in general, not everyone's individual character grievances.

Oh so you’re just wasting peoples time with semantics and strawmen. Sorry, I mistook you for someone discussing things in good faith for some reason, my bad. You think the new models are a “massive upgrade” but also you’re telling people the changes are so subtle they shouldn’t care so much? Hey which is it? I should just stick to leaving my feedback and not bother offering my knowledge in the discussion to people who are just going to turn out to be here to be contrarian and have no interest in common ground.

[sweetchort]

Hello o/

I'm still thinking there is an issue with Miqo'te eyes. The two eyes don't look in the same direction. The main reflection points aren't symmetrical on Miqo'te eyes (this is also the case with Sun Miqo'te) :





I tried to correct it with Photoshop (the upper one):



I really hope we'll get a fix.

Okay, just for update it, I just submitted a bug report, and I hope this time it gets noticed.^^'

[CidHeiral]

Oh so you’re just wasting peoples time with semantics and strawmen. Sorry, I mistook you for someone discussing things in good faith for some reason, my bad. You think the new models are a “massive upgrade” but also you’re telling people the changes are so subtle they shouldn’t care so much? Hey which is it? I should just stick to leaving my feedback and not bother offering my knowledge in the discussion to people who are just going to turn out to be here to be contrarian and have no interest in common ground.

Huh? The two aren't mutually exclusive. The goal of the graphics update was to update the models but keep to their old look as closely as possible, so the overall quality can be a massive upgrade but they may still have subtle differences from the original like an eye being a slightly different shape or something.

In almost every post I've gone out of my way to say people are entitled to their opinion and not wrong about however they feel about their character. Accusing me of posting in bad faith when you're clearly hearing whatever you want to hear to pick a fight is pretty nonsensical.

In any case, it's clear this isn't actually a discussion thread. I tried my best to be friendly and diplomatic but it seems a lot of the same people who so often ask for empathy regarding their character woes have no qualms about dogpiling anyone who doesn't enthusiastically agree with them. Take care and I hope everyone currently unhappy is able to enjoy their character again one day whatever happens.

[Cheapshot]

Huh? The two aren't mutually exclusive. The goal of the graphics update was to update the models but keep to their old look as closely as possible, so the overall quality can be a massive upgrade but they may still have subtle differences from the original like an eye being a slightly different shape or something.

In almost every post I've gone out of my way to say people are entitled to their opinion and not wrong about however they feel about their character. Accusing me of posting in bad faith when you're clearly hearing whatever you want to hear to pick a fight is pretty nonsensical.

In any case, it's clear this isn't actually a discussion thread. I tried my best to be friendly and diplomatic but it seems a lot of the same people who so often ask for empathy regarding their character woes have no qualms about dogpiling anyone who doesn't enthusiastically agree with them. Take care and I hope everyone currently unhappy is able to enjoy their character again one day whatever happens.

Maybe it was your intention, but you strayed from that in the post I responded to, which is why I called you out. You started making strawman arguments against exaggerated portrayals of peoples feedback on the graphics update, which I called out. Apparently that now means everyone who disagrees is being “dogpiled” and no discussion can be had? Come on now.

[Tahli]

Okay, just for update it, I just submitted a bug report, and I hope this time it gets noticed.^^'

Unfortunately this was moved to "Working as Intended".
It might be because you mistook the misaligned catchlights as the iris/pupil themselves looking in the wrong direction? But the problem really is just the catchlights, which give the illusion of where the eye is looking.

[CidHeiral]

Maybe it was your intention, but you strayed from that in the post I responded to, which is why I called you out. You started making strawman arguments against exaggerated portrayals of peoples feedback on the graphics update, which I called out. Apparently that now means everyone who disagrees is being “dogpiled” and no discussion can be had? Come on now.

I don't think you actually know what a strawman argument is. I said people have said their characters are unrecognizable, which they have all across this forum and in this very thread. I also said there's nothing wrong with them having that opinion. The only straw here is you grasping at straws to find something to be mad about. Peace.

[shinjyu]

i brought case of Rostnstal (npc) as my friend's request.






first, i told about male roe's less eyelashes before post

and my friend really disappointing about male roegadyn's less eyelashes.

maybe it's cause thin eyelines. and they make his eyes look smaller.

nose's end color got pale and iris color has changed? and pupil became too large.

she really upset about those change. Rostnsthal is her favorite npc

[sweetchort]

Unfortunately this was moved to "Working as Intended".
It might be because you mistook the misaligned catchlights as the iris/pupil themselves looking in the wrong direction? But the problem really is just the catchlights, which give the illusion of where the eye is looking.

Yes, I see that, maybe you're right and it's just the catchlights ^^'. But the problem is still here and if they think it's normal that means no patch

[Cheapshot]

Unfortunately this was moved to "Working as Intended".
It might be because you mistook the misaligned catchlights as the iris/pupil themselves looking in the wrong direction? But the problem really is just the catchlights, which give the illusion of where the eye is looking.

It’s unfortunate they think that’s working as intended then since the catchlights are so inconsistent between eyes, especially on miqo’te it seems. The position of them shouldn’t be that uneven from one eye to the other. That seems like a technical mistake.

[ronibosch]

I don't have any screenshots at the ready right now, but the facial paint/tattoos are still blurry. It's much more obvious with the updated skin textures, especially when you use the "eyebrows" option. I hope they do a "part 2/hotfix" patch soon.