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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
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    1. So it all comes down to you not liking the presentation than Wuk Lamat herself, that's your opinion to have. Doesn't make my point moot though.

    3.What...? Yes she did. She starts to overcome her imposter syndrome, she goes from not being confident in fighting someone like Bakool Ja Ja to fighting him 1v1 along with his goons. She realizes that while she thought she understood her people's cultures, she has much more to learn, and that she can't do everything herself, the whole point of which is why Koana is appointed as co-ruler. This just reads as you not having paid attention at all.

    4.Again... what...? She WAS shoved out of the way during the 3rd and 4th sections of the final zone. Also, why wouldn't contending with INVADING FORCES TO HER PEOPLE AND NATION be a ruler's concern and responsibility? This just reads as grossly asinine or uninformed. That she got a bit at the end contending with the final boss after we did most of the work is only natural for the cinematic nature of final boss fights for this game.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    LOL okay champ. *pats on head*

    I'm sorry you just have a hard time accepting many people dislike this character and story.

    And about Twitter - take a longer look, past all the people screaming "PHOBE!!!" as a distraction to the poor quality we received here as consumers.
    Hey, if the response to being told you're factually incorrect is "lol pats u on head" then by all means pretend you won that argument, I'm sure everyone else will agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post

    Hey, if the response to being told you're factually incorrect is "lol pats u on head" then by all means pretend you won that argument, I'm sure everyone else will agree.
    I'm sorry, but nothing you wrote is a fact. It's all your opinion. An opinion few here seem to share.

    Nothing you wrote was compelling, or even worth responding to. It was Wuk, not Koana, who won the contest. It felt to me Koana was added more as plot device so Wuk can just abandon her ruling duties minutes after ascending into the position to be a soldier. She's not even there with her own people - she's tagging along with the Scions doing Scion work for which she isn't even qualified.

    Anyway, I'm glad you lack the critical thinking skills I have. I guess it's helpful to you so you can enjoy Wuk and her writing more than I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I'm sorry, but nothing you wrote is a fact. It's all your opinion. An opinion few here seem to share.

    Nothing you wrote was compelling, or even worth responding to. It was Wuk, not Koana, who won the contest. It felt to me Koana was added more as plot device so Wuk can just abandon her ruling duties minutes after ascending into the position to be a soldier. She's not even there with her own people - she's tagging along with the Scions doing Scion work for which she isn't even qualified.

    Anyway, I'm glad you lack the critical thinking skills I have, but I guess it's helpful to you so you can enjoy Wuk and her writing more than I can.
    So let me get this straight:

    Bakool Ja Ja didn't note that we were a threat?
    We didn't match Gulool Ja Ja in combat or beat their shade?
    The final boss didn't specify us as the greatest threat?
    Wuk Lamat and Koana didn't strategize to have him handle the city's defenses while Wuk Lamat pursued Sphene and Zoraal Ja, thus justifying her going out in the first place?
    There are no examples of an irritating character having good character development?
    FF14's devs don't decide a character's voice direction and have final say on takes?
    Bakool Ja Ja orchestarted a hostage situation to avoid fighting us didn't happen?
    Sphene and Wuk Lamat weren't built up as foils who both love their people and value them greatly?

    NONE of these happend and are not facts... despite them being in the story and clearly having happened?

    Sir, I don't think you know what "facts" are, or are you really prepared to say none of this happened?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    So let me get this straight:

    Bakool Ja Ja didn't note that we were a threat?
    We didn't match Gulool Ja Ja in combat or beat their shade?
    The final boss didn't specify us as the greatest threat?
    Wuk Lamat and Koana didn't strategize to have him handle the city's defenses while Wuk Lamat pursued Sphene and Zoraal Ja, thus justifying her going out in the first place?
    There are no examples of an irritating character having good character development?
    FF14's devs don't decide a character's voice direction and have final say on takes?
    Bakool Ja Ja orchestarted a hostage situation to avoid fighting us didn't happen?
    Sphene and Wuk Lamat weren't built up as foils who both love their people and value them greatly?

    NONE of these happend and are not facts... despite them being in the story and clearly having happened?

    Sir, I don't think you know what "facts" are, or are you really prepared to say none of this happened?
    I never said my opinions were facts either. Also I never said that there were no irritating characters with good character development - I actually said you need to redeem the irritating character. If you can't have reading comprehension for some brief comments, I have no idea how you claim to be so superior to the rest of us in understanding the entire expansion.
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    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I never said my opinions were facts either. Also I never said that there were no irritating characters with good character development - I actually said you need to redeem the irritating character. If you can't have reading comprehension for some brief comments, I have no idea how you claim to be so superior to the rest of us in understanding the entire expansion.
    Concession accepted, you don't know what facts at despite being called out to defend your statement.
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