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  1. #11
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    Kalaam's Avatar
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    Phantom
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Wouldn't it be fun if ennemies could crit as well and tenacity is the stat that reduces the chance of getting critted ? Given the damage variance from crits, you wouldn't have any choice but to make sure you reduce the crit chance to 0 with tenacity ! There problem solved !
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    Shikaree Sinhunter
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 100
    You'd think after years of us NOT using the stat at all, they'd have figured out (if it doesnt increase damage, it's a shite stat we're not bothering with). 10 years and they've still no clue about how their playerbase works. Lol.
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  3. #13
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    Wouldn't it be fun if ennemies could crit as well and tenacity is the stat that reduces the chance of getting critted ? Given the damage variance from crits, you wouldn't have any choice but to make sure you reduce the crit chance to 0 with tenacity ! There problem solved !
    That would just make it a binary stat like accuracy was, you get exactly enough to not get crit because it's mandatory and then ignore it.
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  4. #14
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    Yeah I know, I was sarcastic.
    Honestly I dunno what could be done with it and direct hit
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  5. #15
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    Shadelia Sunshooter
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Tenacity is jack of all trade, cannot buff it without make it too OP, so no matter how they buff it, it will alway an inferior version of det anyway, a stats purely for damage, and damage us everything in this game
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    Last edited by ShariusTC; 07-06-2024 at 05:47 AM.

  6. #16
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ShariusTC View Post
    Tenacity is jack of all trade, cannot buff it without make it too OP, so no matter how they buff it, it will alway an inferior version of det anyway, a stats purely for damage, and damage us everything in this game
    Would it be a problem if Tenacity was broken as long as it's exclusive to tanks?
    We would move from SKS tier > Crit > DH/DET to SKS tier > Crit > Tenacity.

    Of course they'd skill have to make DH an ineffective stat for tanks, as long as a 0.1% chance of DH is possible, people will try to exploit it.
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  7. #17
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    Yurippe Shiina
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    Phoenix
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Yup, still the same meld priority it seems. Why don't they just get rid of materia at this point? It's the same illusion of choice as talent trees are in other games that try to have "balanced" classes. You don't choose your "build" with materia here, you just look up a guide what to meld, and do that. So what's the point in materia's existence to begin with?
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  8. #18
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    Ryaduera Tengille
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    Leviathan
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MediArgentum View Post
    Yup, still the same meld priority it seems. Why don't they just get rid of materia at this point? It's the same illusion of choice as talent trees are in other games that try to have "balanced" classes. You don't choose your "build" with materia here, you just look up a guide what to meld, and do that. So what's the point in materia's existence to begin with?
    Yes, they need to either rework materia, rework stat priority, or remove materia entirely. It's an illusion of choice that doesn't even act as a gil sink since just a couple tank/healer roulettes and you're flooded with the materia you need.
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    Filled to the brim with salt, vinegar, and unpopular opinions.

    Nobody told me Fantasias were addictive, now I have to go to rehab.

  9. #19
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Elkanah View Post
    You'd think after years of us NOT using the stat at all, they'd have figured out (if it doesnt increase damage, it's a shite stat we're not bothering with). 10 years and they've still no clue about how their playerbase works. Lol.
    Well thats the issue isnt it, Materia's options are:
    +Damage
    +Damage(but worse)
    +Damage(even worse)

    There's really only one option. The gear upgrades in this game are so boring I don't even know why they're in the game.

    Skill/Spell Speed could be an interesting alternative for faster resource generation but the numbers are so minor that it doesnt really even feel like an upgrade.
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  10. #20
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Unless you overmeld crafted gear at the start of a new raid tier. Hunt trains barely cover all the materia that breaks during pentamelding. It's still a huge gil sink but I agree do away with materia, it's a stupid system.
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