Physical Ranged (Also SMN) "Freedom of Movement" Tax

[Corwin_Sunchaser]

I do agree that without extremely specific mechanics directly targeted at the role, it will remain in limbo, since you can't either buff it on par with melees/BLM/PCT else nobody would play melee anymore. It's not a solvable conundrum.

Maybe they should add a % party buff to force groups to have melees in their ranks? Wait a minute...

All jobs should have a similar dps output within their role (Tank, DPS, Healer) so playstyle would be the main reason you choose to play a job.

Also, at what point the damage output of the rphys + % party buff become less impactful than taking another melee or PCT/BLM? I'd say we are not that far...

[Valence]

Maybe they should add a % party buff to force groups to have melees in their ranks? Wait a minute...

All jobs should have a similar dps output within their role (Tank, DPS, Healer) so playstyle would be the main reason you choose to play a job.

Also, at what point the damage output of the rphys + % party buff become less impactful than taking another melee or PCT/BLM? I'd say we are not that far...

I mean you're preaching to the choir, I'm a literally job commie when it comes to skill floor and ceilings for everybody and damage output for everybody.

But as soon as you mention flattening the damage output all across the board, casters and melees start to freak out real bad somehow.

No one playing melee anymore because of physical ranged doing damage is just not true at all. People will always play melee as long as they aren't significantly behind in damage like physical ranged is currently in due to them having 6 different fun options with somewhat unique gameplay.

Not only that but my main point is that the difference has just been simply laughable, anything more than a few percentage ahead is awful balancing.

Majority of the player base will not play a job they simply don't enjoy. Players are just being punished currently because their favorite job happens to be a physical ranged or caster that isn't PCT or soon to be BLM when they inevitably get major buffs.

I was mostly referring to challenging content, savage/ultimate in particular. You'd still see melees, but a lot of groups could just go for 1 melee and 3 ranged because they wouldn't have to bother with melee positions. Is it a bad thing by necessity or just more freedom though, idk?

[Corwin_Sunchaser]

But as soon as you mention flattening the damage output all across the board, casters and melees start to freak out real bad somehow.

Should we care? I mean, I've been refected from PF groups by green parsers BeCAUse McH Iz NoT CoMPetiTiVe!!!...

[CaedemSanguis]

well melee have to greed in ex1 and ex2, they also have positionals, while casters have casts, I dont thnk we should remove the freedom of movement tax, maybe reduce it a bit ?