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  1. #1
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    AddictedToWitches's Avatar
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    Character
    Koko Goro
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    so I actually looked into what's going on with these viper changes and it looks like it's literally nothing.
    Big complaints are coming from the JP community, though same complaints can be seen here:
    >combos are a bit confusing when you first get the job
    >clarity could be better, especially for colorblind players when concerning hind/flank combo enders
    >buffs/debuffs aren't long enough
    >some people dislike the lack of a BIG DAMAGE BUTTON like communio/midare
    >Ogcds of dreadwinder combo could use more range (this I agree with)

    This, in conjunction with the post on lodestone makes it clear the only changes are probably just going to be:
    >easing positionals/making it easier to discern for colorblind etc.
    >increasing noxious gash to 30-40 seconds instead of 20

    SE has no intent on changing the way the job itself works. All that is changing is QoL improvements and clarity.
    So it's a nothingburger, there is nothing to complain about. Job will stay the same.
    Before anyone whines about whether or not they are gonna be changing/removing positionals, just don't worry about it. In a perfect world there would be 0 positionals and all the best fights in the game don't have positional requirements anyway.
    (5)

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    Player Kathryn's Avatar
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    Character
    Nanapie Kimura
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 28
    Quote Originally Posted by AddictedToWitches View Post
    so I actually looked into what's going on with these viper changes and it looks like it's literally nothing.
    Big complaints are coming from the JP community, though same complaints can be seen here:
    >combos are a bit confusing when you first get the job
    >clarity could be better, especially for colorblind players when concerning hind/flank combo enders
    >buffs/debuffs aren't long enough
    >some people dislike the lack of a BIG DAMAGE BUTTON like communio/midare
    >Ogcds of dreadwinder combo could use more range (this I agree with)

    This, in conjunction with the post on lodestone makes it clear the only changes are probably just going to be:
    >easing positionals/making it easier to discern for colorblind etc.
    >increasing noxious gash to 30-40 seconds instead of 20

    SE has no intent on changing the way the job itself works. All that is changing is QoL improvements and clarity.
    So it's a nothingburger, there is nothing to complain about. Job will stay the same.
    Before anyone whines about whether or not they are gonna be changing/removing positionals, just don't worry about it. In a perfect world there would be 0 positionals and all the best fights in the game don't have positional requirements anyway.
    Ok, this feels more reassuring to me at least, they can also take that 2 min window crap and stick it, I find that schtick so boring!

    Loving VPR so far, can't wait to have my cuppa log on and carry on levelling it today
    (3)

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    Character
    Vim Mercer
    World
    Alpha
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
    Ok, this feels more reassuring to me at least, they can also take that 2 min window crap and stick it, I find that schtick so boring!

    Loving VPR so far, can't wait to have my cuppa log on and carry on levelling it today
    While I fully agree, the 2 minute window thing is annoying and limits how classes can play, you know that Viper too works in that meta, right?
    With Serpents Ire being 120s and you generating about 50 serpents offering every minute, you usually do one reawaken at 60s, and a double reawaken at 120s
    (5)
    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

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    Player Kathryn's Avatar
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    Character
    Nanapie Kimura
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 28
    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    While I fully agree, the 2 minute window thing is annoying and limits how classes can play, you know that Viper too works in that meta, right?
    With Serpents Ire being 120s and you generating about 50 serpents offering every minute, you usually do one reawaken at 60s, and a double reawaken at 120s
    I dont know, im only lvl 85 on VPR and enjoying it so far, I feel the 2 minute meta is absolutely garbage boring and restricted gameplay, SE really need to ditch this meta come 8.0 with the job revision as I don't think there's many people who actually enjoy it.
    (4)