Prepare to have your mind blown

[Delsus]

I was agreeing with you...



I was saying how Aether-magnetism would definitely make sense....

Sorry, thought that was sarcasm, seems the most logical explination as well.

[Rydin]

Sorry, thought that was sarcasm, seems the most logical explination as well.

No sweat... I thought you could see I was in agreement when I said Aether is drawn to other aether....
Good times

[Zdenka]

The hight at which an object can orbit (lets call it) a mass depends on the force of the masses gravity, and the weight of the object being pulled in, lets take our solar system as an example mercury is the 1st planet and its very small, venus is bigger than mercury and is the second planet, earth is one size bigger and the third planet, etc etc up to neptune. Neptune and Pluto are the exeptions, and i'm not too sure of the reason, perhaps they are held in orbit by another system's gravitational pull.

If for example the moon came into a similar orbit of a standard satalite, with its mass and the gravitational pull of the earth it would fall however if a satalite orbited the earth at the same distance as the moon it would float away because its mass is that low and the reduced gravitational pull of the earth would not be sufficiant to hold it.

All it takes is about 10,000 kilometers out of a normal orbit and it would fall into the strongest gravitational pull around.

Dalamud is too close to us, it is past the "point of no return" and will crash unless something intervines (possible aether-attraction and reacts blowing it up)

This is incorrect, the Mass of an object doesn't have any relation to its orbitary position. In you example; Earth (nearly same mass as Venus, but not in relative orbits according to that mass), Mars, Neptune, Uranus, and Pluto all contradict that as well as the Asteroid Belt which has objects the size of your fist rotating around the sun and not getting "flung" towards it. Mass only affects the eccentricities of the orbit.

Back on topic, in the old Dalamud thread I too posted that Dalamud would most likely be stopped, and its "pull" on Aether is what causes all of the nodes and terraforming seen in 2.0 pictures.

Also in accordance to Rydin's Legatus post, its possible the Legatus battle in 1.23 is when we stop him and subsequently Dalamuds "trigger" preventing it from approaching closer. I don't think I've seen anything about post 1.23 so maybe that was the last initially planned patch before 2.0 which would make sense in the events of the 7th Umbral Saga.

I can wait to see Dalamud in 1.22 as Yoshi said it would be more menancing than ever

[HiirNoivl]

Seems like a lot of you are hinting toward the 2.0 PDF stuff. Do we have dead certainty that the artifact seen in the 2.0 teaser:



Is this the Crystal Tower? No, the Tomb of Xandes the Crystal Tower is in Mor Dhona, a desolate waste. This is sprouting from the image map of Coerthas.

The Black Hole in the top is the void gate. The strange land formation is OUR world being sucked into it.

[Delsus]

This is incorrect, the Mass of an object doesn't have any relation to its orbitary position. In you example; Earth (nearly same mass as Venus, but not in relative orbits according to that mass), Mars, Neptune, Uranus, and Pluto all contradict that as well as the Asteroid Belt which has objects the size of your fist rotating around the sun and not getting "flung" towards it. Mass only affects the eccentricities of the orbit.

Back on topic, in the old Dalamud thread I too posted that Dalamud would most likely be stopped, and its "pull" on Aether is what causes all of the nodes and terraforming seen in 2.0 pictures.

Also in accordance to Rydin's Legatus post, its possible the Legatus battle in 1.23 is when we stop him and subsequently Dalamuds "trigger" preventing it from approaching closer. I don't think I've seen anything about post 1.23 so maybe that was the last initially planned patch before 2.0 which would make sense in the events of the 7th Umbral Saga.

I can wait to see Dalamud in 1.22 as Yoshi said it would be more menancing than ever

There are other things that hold the outer planets and the asteroid belt in place, the pull from planets and close stars for example, but once an object of high mass gets too close to a larger object, it circomes to the gravitational pull, perhaps planets could get closer to the sun and remain in orbit, but the lower gravitational pull of a planet and the mass of a moon makes it easy to come crashing down.

But we agree on what could happen

[Zantetsuken]

The Black Hole in the top is the void gate. The strange land formation is OUR world being sucked into it.

Could you post your link to your info on the Void Gate?

I've always assumed that the shadow was the underside of a mushroom-like top to the structure.

BTW, to lend more credence to the Aether-attraction arguement, A common theme of the 'ripped up' terrain seems to be that it seems to be made of a yellowish crystalline material. This is definitely a different material than the current blue Aetheryte seen in both Mor Dhona and the teleport points.

Yellow, blue....

Whoa! I wonder if they are gonna take this in a FFV direction... (´･_･`)!!


BTW, I wonder if this is supposed to be Dalamud coming down .. Or is it some sort of floating continent?

[Rydin]

Could you post your link to your info on the Void Gate?

I've always assumed that the shadow was the underside of a mushroom-like top to the structure.

BTW, to lend more credence to the Aether-attraction arguement, A common theme of the 'ripped up' terrain seems to be that it seems to be made of a yellowish crystalline material. This is definitely a different material than the current blue Aetheryte seen in both Mor Dhona and the teleport points.

Yellow, blue....

Whoa! I wonder if they are gonna take this in a FFV direction... (´･_･`)a

the idea does seem to make sense

[Zantetsuken]

the idea does seem to make sense

It would neatly explain the existing culture/history in the 2.0 world without any time-travel shenanigans.

[Rydin]

It would neatly explain the existing culture/history in the 2.0 world without any time-travel shenanigans.

True.. from what I've seen, one of the major limitations of the "Echo" is that you can view the past but you can never change it... I think they wanted to stress that the echo isn't time travel... it is only viewing a persons memories...
If you used the echo on me... you'd see things from my perspective, and you'd never see anything that I didn't see

Edit: Unless they pull out the Jake Gyllenhaal "Source Code" / Denzel Washington "Deja Vu" deal.... where the main character is told he can only view the past and can't intervene or change it, and he ends up finding a way to do just that

[Delsus]

Could you post your link to your info on the Void Gate?

I've always assumed that the shadow was the underside of a mushroom-like top to the structure.

BTW, to lend more credence to the Aether-attraction arguement, A common theme of the 'ripped up' terrain seems to be that it seems to be made of a yellowish crystalline material. This is definitely a different material than the current blue Aetheryte seen in both Mor Dhona and the teleport points.

Yellow, blue....

Whoa! I wonder if they are gonna take this in a FFV direction... (´･_･`)!!


BTW, I wonder if this is supposed to be Dalamud coming down .. Or is it some sort of floating continent?

Perhaps Dalamud contains aether's opposite, which is pulling it closer, in essence anti-aether, however that could just be how that pic shows the light, thats what it looks like to me.

FFV is one of only 2 FF games I have not played so I can't comment on that "FFV direction" idea. A picture of what could happen is starting to take shape now.