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  1. #1
    Player
    Taliriah's Avatar
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    Makoto Hinata
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nothv13 View Post
    The only time that ability icons might make a difference is is you care heavily about hitting the positional correctly.
    I also remember which is which from of their position on my bars and which keybind each use. I literally don't care about the icons or even the ability names. Heck, I never even remember the names.
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    Character
    Kai Sarthesah
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Taliriah View Post
    I also remember which is which from of their position on my bars and which keybind each use. I literally don't care about the icons or even the ability names. Heck, I never even remember the names.
    Yeah I think I worded the original message wrong, that's also what I do to keep track of the normal combo. Different slots on the hotbar = different effects, same for different keystrokes (ctrl + 2 = debuff enemy for example). The icons are meaningless to me. I think it might be possible to think of this as a fighting game combo (A+A+B+A) and memorise all the combos so I can play optimally, but it's still very easy for me to forget where I just was in the combo since I can't see my character very well in busy bossfights with mechanics I should be looking at, and (rather than meaningful positions) I have (what to me are) meaningless icons to tell me where I am, which doesn't help in the slightest.

    But yeah, the main points here are:
    - Inexcusably bad onboarding, where you have to pause and reach what abilities do OR have a poorly organised Abilities screen to read from. "Inexcusably" because they have the solution in the very update that game with this class.
    - No way to keep track of where you are if you have any visual or attention problems, especially if you have both.
    - Need to memorise every combo (which doesn't matter if you lose your place anyway) if you have the above issues, since the icons tell you nothing at that point.

    Again, extremely easy fix that already exists so absolutely no reason not to use it.
    And I really appreciate all the tips! I'll try to implement them and see if they help
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    Character
    Siegfried Berhtsch
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    Seraph
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cinedo View Post
    But yeah, the main points here are:
    - Inexcusably bad onboarding, where you have to pause and reach what abilities do OR have a poorly organised Abilities screen to read from. "Inexcusably" because they have the solution in the very update that game with this class.
    - No way to keep track of where you are if you have any visual or attention problems, especially if you have both.
    - Need to memorise every combo (which doesn't matter if you lose your place anyway) if you have the above issues, since the icons tell you nothing at that point.
    I'm sorry brother but not every job is for everyone. If you don't like it, don't play it. Same as I, that don't play BLM or MNK, nor any healers or tanks. Pick what you like instead of changing what you don't understand.
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    Makoto Hinata
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cinedo View Post
    - No way to keep track of where you are if you have any visual or attention problems, especially if you have both.
    - Need to memorise every combo (which doesn't matter if you lose your place anyway) if you have the above issues, since the icons tell you nothing at that point.
    You haven't played long enough to make this judgment (no one have). These problems (which, spoiler alert, everyone have at first) will disappear as you get used to play and muscle memory kicks in. Surely during your entire life you have noticed that this is how new skills that you learn become easy over time?

    "I can't play the job proficiently after a couple days THIS IS A MAJOR ACCESSIBILITY ISSUE". The job is getting ruined because SE is stupid enough to listen to this kind of drivel. Good job. Thanks.
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    Last edited by Taliriah; 07-05-2024 at 02:20 AM.
    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 04/07/2024. It was a fun almost one week