Major accessibility issue with Viper

[PK_THUNER]

Separating the buttons would make it a nightmare to play. The basic combo is actually extremely static like dragoon. The only real choice you get is the first 3 buttons you press. After that the whole rotation is 12 gcds before it loops back. Because of the way the finisher buffs works. It buffs in a sequence with alternating positionals, which is also why your second button alternates. So the sequence for your 3rd button is this. 2 , 1 , 1 , 2. Now add the alternating 2nd button, 2 - 2, 1 - 1, 2 - 1, 1 - 2. Now we add the 1st button and your full 12 gcd rotation looks like this. 2 - 2 - 2, 1 - 1 - 1, 1 - 2 - 1, 1 - 1 -2.

[gumas]

for me viper basically dancer but faster, melee, and more organized, once you play long enough you can tell which button will be highlighted unlike dancer which is RNG

my difficulty in viper now is still not used with the positional attack (flank and rear) because the class animation blink him left and right sometimes it mess up my position

i just ignored it throughout casual play since its not really a biggy, should be getting used to it after a while in the future

[Big-Isaac]

Soooo, am I losing DPS by alternating starters and then just going where the glowy boarder guides?
I gathered that all the red finishers are rear positionals, while all the green ones are flank.

[Taliriah]

Soooo, am I losing DPS by alternating starters

You don't need to refresh the damage debuff that often and the starter that doesn't do this deals more damage.

[Chasingstars]

Soooo, am I losing DPS by alternating starters and then just going where the glowy boarder guides?
I gathered that all the red finishers are rear positionals, while all the green ones are flank.

Yep reds are rear, green is flank. I personally prefer using Dreadwinder and Swiftskin's Coil and Hunter's Coil to jumpstart the buffs and debuffs. As once you have swiftskin and hunter buffs up, they are easy to keep up when doing your basic combos.

When doing your basic combos, your 1-2-3, I would recommend only using Steel Fang if your in a position where your hunter and swiftskin buffs and the enemy's noxious gnash debuff are at fairly long timers. As Steel Fang's only benefit is its 200 potency vs Dread Fang's 140, that it is just raw damage and no other benefit. Dread Fang is your basic method of refreshing the enemy's damage taken debuff.

[KingNirada]

Viper is fine, it hasn't even been a week and there's nothing on the job that a little commitment and time on your end wont solve. And if it can't be solved, that's fine too, not every job needs to be for everyone.

[justausername]

Its only been a week. I don't think there is accessibility issues (barring perhaps colorblindness, but there are ways around that). I think some people just haven't sat down and taken the time. I don't claim ninja has accessibility issues just because I don't understand it. I know I haven't taken the time to learn it.
It's as simple as following the glowing lines. Honestly in base content, even if you aren't doing it optimally, you're fine. Most people aren't doing their jobs optimally in base content.

[Henber]

But yeah, the main points here are:
- Inexcusably bad onboarding, where you have to pause and reach what abilities do OR have a poorly organised Abilities screen to read from. "Inexcusably" because they have the solution in the very update that game with this class.
- No way to keep track of where you are if you have any visual or attention problems, especially if you have both.
- Need to memorise every combo (which doesn't matter if you lose your place anyway) if you have the above issues, since the icons tell you nothing at that point.

I'm sorry brother but not every job is for everyone. If you don't like it, don't play it. Same as I, that don't play BLM or MNK, nor any healers or tanks. Pick what you like instead of changing what you don't understand.

[Taliriah]

- No way to keep track of where you are if you have any visual or attention problems, especially if you have both.
- Need to memorise every combo (which doesn't matter if you lose your place anyway) if you have the above issues, since the icons tell you nothing at that point.

You haven't played long enough to make this judgment (no one have). These problems (which, spoiler alert, everyone have at first) will disappear as you get used to play and muscle memory kicks in. Surely during your entire life you have noticed that this is how new skills that you learn become easy over time?

"I can't play the job proficiently after a couple days THIS IS A MAJOR ACCESSIBILITY ISSUE". The job is getting ruined because SE is stupid enough to listen to this kind of drivel. Good job. Thanks.

[contresixtes]

Not being able to read your tooltips is NOT an accessibility issue-- an accessibility issue would be, for example, that they're using red and green to mark which buttons are the positionals and that's the most common form of colorblindness. Hope that helps!