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    So what happens to Dalamud? It either doesn't hit us, in which case it will remain visible in the sky since our gravity will catch it. Or, it hits Eorzea in some manner, however, there will be no reason for Aetheryte's floating (since nothing pulling on it). So my theory is that we stop Dalamud, and it just orbits us, pulling and distorting features of Eorzea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur View Post
    So what happens to Dalamud? It either doesn't hit us, in which case it will remain visible in the sky since our gravity will catch it. Or, it hits Eorzea in some manner, however, there will be no reason for Aetheryte's floating (since nothing pulling on it). So my theory is that we stop Dalamud, and it just orbits us, pulling and distorting features of Eorzea.
    The pdfs were a mix of whats to come in 1.2xx and 2.0, the floating aethers I believe will be in 1.23, when Dalamud is very close.

    Dalamud has always been in orbit, it is now closer to the planet and is therefore in our gravity well so to speak and is falling out the sky, it cannot get caught in our gravity and in a low orbit, it will fall unless it gets pushed back to its origanal orbit, think of a comet or meteor hitting the planet, this is the same but something is gonna happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    The pdfs were a mix of whats to come in 1.2xx and 2.0, the floating aethers I believe will be in 1.23, when Dalamud is very close.

    Dalamud has always been in orbit, it is now closer to the planet and is therefore in our gravity well so to speak and is falling out the sky, it cannot get caught in our gravity and in a low orbit, it will fall unless it gets pushed back to its origanal orbit, think of a comet or meteor hitting the planet, this is the same but something is gonna happen.
    Although I get what you are saying, two objects can be close, and orbit each other, and not crash into each other. Regardless, I just can't see Dalamud hitting Eorzea bc it would impact every part of the world and kill many people and I don't see SE doing that. Hence I believe it will be this orbiting each other (more closely than now) idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur View Post
    Although I get what you are saying, two objects can be close, and orbit each other, and not crash into each other. Regardless, I just can't see Dalamud hitting Eorzea bc it would impact every part of the world and kill many people and I don't see SE doing that. Hence I believe it will be this orbiting each other (more closely than now) idea.
    Or it could be broken up into smaller pieces, some of which may burn up or further reduce in size upon entry. This would deform the land but not completely destroy it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Or it could be broken up into smaller pieces, some of which may burn up or further reduce in size upon entry. This would deform the land but not completely destroy it
    Yea it could, but I mean, once a chunk of meteor hits an area its unlikely to look how they pdfs, have showed glimpses (i.e., with vegetation, regular weather, water). Unless the whole time theory is involved, that is, that the meteor break up and impact is then preceded by a large chunk of time in which we come back into the game.

    Interesting discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur View Post
    Although I get what you are saying, two objects can be close, and orbit each other, and not crash into each other. Regardless, I just can't see Dalamud hitting Eorzea bc it would impact every part of the world and kill many people and I don't see SE doing that. Hence I believe it will be this orbiting each other (more closely than now) idea.
    The hight at which an object can orbit (lets call it) a mass depends on the force of the masses gravity, and the weight of the object being pulled in, lets take our solar system as an example mercury is the 1st planet and its very small, venus is bigger than mercury and is the second planet, earth is one size bigger and the third planet, etc etc up to neptune. Neptune and Pluto are the exeptions, and i'm not too sure of the reason, perhaps they are held in orbit by another system's gravitational pull.

    If for example the moon came into a similar orbit of a standard satalite, with its mass and the gravitational pull of the earth it would fall however if a satalite orbited the earth at the same distance as the moon it would float away because its mass is that low and the reduced gravitational pull of the earth would not be sufficiant to hold it.

    All it takes is about 10,000 kilometers out of a normal orbit and it would fall into the strongest gravitational pull around.

    Dalamud is too close to us, it is past the "point of no return" and will crash unless something intervines (possible aether-attraction and reacts blowing it up)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    The hight at which an object can orbit (lets call it) a mass depends on the force of the masses gravity, and the weight of the object being pulled in, lets take our solar system as an example mercury is the 1st planet and its very small, venus is bigger than mercury and is the second planet, earth is one size bigger and the third planet, etc etc up to neptune. Neptune and Pluto are the exeptions, and i'm not too sure of the reason, perhaps they are held in orbit by another system's gravitational pull.

    If for example the moon came into a similar orbit of a standard satalite, with its mass and the gravitational pull of the earth it would fall however if a satalite orbited the earth at the same distance as the moon it would float away because its mass is that low and the reduced gravitational pull of the earth would not be sufficiant to hold it.

    All it takes is about 10,000 kilometers out of a normal orbit and it would fall into the strongest gravitational pull around.

    Dalamud is too close to us, it is past the "point of no return" and will crash unless something intervines (possible aether-attraction and reacts blowing it up)
    This is incorrect, the Mass of an object doesn't have any relation to its orbitary position. In you example; Earth (nearly same mass as Venus, but not in relative orbits according to that mass), Mars, Neptune, Uranus, and Pluto all contradict that as well as the Asteroid Belt which has objects the size of your fist rotating around the sun and not getting "flung" towards it. Mass only affects the eccentricities of the orbit.

    Back on topic, in the old Dalamud thread I too posted that Dalamud would most likely be stopped, and its "pull" on Aether is what causes all of the nodes and terraforming seen in 2.0 pictures.

    Also in accordance to Rydin's Legatus post, its possible the Legatus battle in 1.23 is when we stop him and subsequently Dalamuds "trigger" preventing it from approaching closer. I don't think I've seen anything about post 1.23 so maybe that was the last initially planned patch before 2.0 which would make sense in the events of the 7th Umbral Saga.

    I can wait to see Dalamud in 1.22 as Yoshi said it would be more menancing than ever
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zdenka View Post
    This is incorrect, the Mass of an object doesn't have any relation to its orbitary position. In you example; Earth (nearly same mass as Venus, but not in relative orbits according to that mass), Mars, Neptune, Uranus, and Pluto all contradict that as well as the Asteroid Belt which has objects the size of your fist rotating around the sun and not getting "flung" towards it. Mass only affects the eccentricities of the orbit.

    Back on topic, in the old Dalamud thread I too posted that Dalamud would most likely be stopped, and its "pull" on Aether is what causes all of the nodes and terraforming seen in 2.0 pictures.

    Also in accordance to Rydin's Legatus post, its possible the Legatus battle in 1.23 is when we stop him and subsequently Dalamuds "trigger" preventing it from approaching closer. I don't think I've seen anything about post 1.23 so maybe that was the last initially planned patch before 2.0 which would make sense in the events of the 7th Umbral Saga.

    I can wait to see Dalamud in 1.22 as Yoshi said it would be more menancing than ever
    There are other things that hold the outer planets and the asteroid belt in place, the pull from planets and close stars for example, but once an object of high mass gets too close to a larger object, it circomes to the gravitational pull, perhaps planets could get closer to the sun and remain in orbit, but the lower gravitational pull of a planet and the mass of a moon makes it easy to come crashing down.

    But we agree on what could happen
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