Prepare to have your mind blown

[Delsus]

Thats a plausible explanation for the map revisions.

Even little things like the Chained-down floating Aetheryte point would point to this.

Still, it can't be the full explaination as the main cities are going to be rebuilt, there will be trains, new towns, ruins and lots of other stuff that can't appear overnight.

Here are the options I see:

20+ years pass between Dalamud's impact and 2.0, Players 'wake up' in the future somehow
-or-
The present we see is actually an echo and players are really living in the 2.0 future.
-or-
Dalamud is sent back in time before it hits (Atomos?) and it alters the present day as a result.

In my opinion, the 3rd option may end up being the most likely. Any alternative would require the replacement of all NPCs quests and cutscenes in the game.

I prefer my thorey of Dalamud attracting aether only, because if it was the gravitational pull the pull of the planet will be greater than the pull of Dalamud, because the planet is bigger, therefore it would be impossible.

My thorey allows the pieces to fit together with no anomolies, please read it and tell me if anything is missing.

[Rokien]

I prefer my thorey of Dalamud attracting aether only, because if it was the gravitational pull the pull of the planet will be greater than the pull of Dalamud, because the planet is bigger, therefore it would be impossible.

My thorey allows the pieces to fit together with no anomolies, please read it and tell me if anything is missing.

Well, we don't know the density of the moon itself, I'm pretty sure if our moon got right up in us, there would be some crazy things happening. It already morphs the world already, our moon does.

[Delsus]

Well, we don't know the density of the moon itself, I'm pretty sure if our moon got right up in us, there would be some crazy things happening. It already morphs the world already, our moon does.

All it does is pull tides in and out, along the surface of the earth, it could never pull things off the surface of the earth.

Its obvious Dalamud is smaller than the planet, with the detail we can see it in it must be close (atleast as close as earth's moon is) also if it was the gravitational pull in the pdfs we got the little hut next to the crystal would be affected as well, which leaves me to believe Dalamud affects only aether.

We also don't know much about what aether is exactly and we know even less about Dalamud, therefore it is entirely possible that if aether comes into contact with Dalamud it will cause some reaction with the possibility to change the face of Eorzea, whether its some form of explosion or perhaps an infection of the aether akin to what kadaj was trying to do in advent children by infecting the lifestream with Jenova cells.

[Halvaard_Vidan]

The 7th Umbral is actually an echo experience and players are really living in the 2.0 future.

I've been thinking this for a while.
The easiest explanation for anything (in a story) is: it was a dream/memory.

[Inzoum]

Here are the options I see:

20+ years pass between Dalamud's impact and 2.0, Players 'wake up' in the future somehow
-or-
The 7th Umbral is actually an echo experience and players are really living in the 2.0 future.
-or-
Dalamud is sent back in time before it hits (Atomos?) and it alters the present day as a result.

Actually, there's a 4th option:

Screw the story, let's just blow up the world so Version 1 ends, and Version 2.0 starts fresh as if nothing ever happened, like a new game, but where you get a head start with quests done and levels and whatnot if you've played Version 1.

Personally, I think it's going to be #4, even though that'd be the most disapointing, storywise

[Zantetsuken]

Actually, there's a 4th option:

Screw the story, let's just blow up the world so Version 1 ends, and Version 2.0 starts fresh as if nothing ever happened, like a new game, but where you get a head start with quests done and levels and whatnot if you've played Version 1.

Personally, I think it's going to be #4, even though that'd be the most disapointing, storywise

However, if the devs were going to take that route, they wouldn't have put in half the effort we've seen in the 7th Umbral/Dalamud Story.

No, we have story and explanation for everything. The designs for the 2.0 world are deliberately based on this event and may well be a focal point in the 2.0 storyline. There's gonna be an explanation for the existence of a rebuilt world, I'm sure of it.

Another tough question for you guys...
Ten years ago, the paragons taught the beast tribes how to summon Primals...

Who are the Paragons???

Perhaps they are like the Occuria... They could even *gasp* be the bosses of old FF games redesigned as 'fallen gods' for FFXIV (like the FFXII zodiac espers were).

Paragons... it does fit.

So...are we using the Echo from 2.0 to go back in time and try to avert the fall of Dalamud? Beating Ifrit, stopping the Moogles, everything we've done to this point...was it all just us reliving the events through the eyes of the Twelve?

Were you ever REALLY in the Bowl of Embers?

My 4 stacks of lvl 5 Dark Matter says I was there. You want to argue with that? ('Echo loot' ftw)

[Rydin]

The gravitational pull of the moon will deform the world itself, and pulling up the crystal tower and other things with it.
That's how i always looked at it.

Except that's not exactly how gravity works....
If Aetherytes starting rising, something on the moon is specifically pulling aetherytes... not gravity
Gravity creates a field that distorts spacetime... as such, a "second" field would... You know what... you're just going to have to trust me on that
Even if it did happen in game (Which is highly unlikely considered the research that goes into these things), it would disappoint me that something so unrealistic happened

Basically FFXIV is a mashup of FFIII, FFVII, FFVIII, FFXI, FFXII, and FFXIII. >.>

this is exactly what I've been saying...

The Garlean Empire is obviously influenced heavily by FFXII's Archadian Empire and FFVI's Empire as well

the Aetherial Energy is so very "FFVII Mako" that it is ridiculous...

Even Legatus Darnus says he wants to hit Eorzea with Meteor and gather at that spot to soak up all the pure creation energy (Sound like Sephy maybe?)

And the struggle with the Beast tribes (Among other things like character races, some gameplay mechanics) are heavily influenced by FFXI...

The FFIII influence is that FFXI was heavily influenced by it, so any references to FFXI probably go back to FFIII

the whole Dalamud ordeal kind of makes me think of the Space events and Lunar Cry from FFVIII... also in the Dats there was a whip class... and although there have been whips before.. the most memorable has got to be Quistis Trepe...

Lastly... the twelve and Primals seem very FaL'cie like from FFXIII (Kind of a stretch but similarities exist) and the paragons could very well be like L'cie

[Delsus]

this is exactly what I've been saying...

The Garlean Empire is obviously influenced heavily by FFXII's Archadian Empire and FFVI's Empire as well

the Aetherial Energy is so very "FFVII Mako" that it is ridiculous...

Even Legatus Darnus says he wants to hit Eorzea with Meteor and gather at that spot to soak up all the pure creation energy (Sound like Sephy maybe?)

And the struggle with the Beast tribes (Among other things like character races, some gameplay mechanics) are heavily influenced by FFXI...

The FFIII influence is that FFXI was heavily influenced by it, so any references to FFXI probably go back to FFIII

the whole Dalamud ordeal kind of makes me think of the Space events and Lunar Cry from FFVIII... also in the Dats there was a whip class... and although there have been whips before.. the most memorable has got to be Quistis Trepe...

Lastly... the twelve and Primals seem very FaL'cie like from FFXIII (Kind of a stretch but similarities exist) and the paragons could very well be like L'cie

FF tradition usually entails using themes from previous games, some small things like the reoccuring Cid, Wedge and Biggs, to the larger things the game is completly based round like jobs, having wierd kids in the party and the Job systems.

Even the stories are heavily based round save the moon or save the crystals (notice anything similar in FFXIV?)

Thats why there are things that can be compared to old FF games.

[Rydin]

FF tradition usually entails using themes from previous games, some small things like the reoccuring Cid, Wedge and Biggs, to the larger things the game is completly based round like jobs, having wierd kids in the party and the Job systems.

Even the stories are heavily based round save the moon or save the crystals (notice anything similar in FFXIV?)

Thats why there are things that can be compared to old FF games.

Yea... I love that about the FF series

Dalamud is too close to us, it is past the "point of no return" and will crash unless something intervines (possible aether-attraction and reacts blowing it up)

Agreed unless it is man made and features some type of propulsion system
Also, people mistakenly fear the "Gravity field" of the moon when the impending Impact and even the magnetic field" pose a much more serious threat

Op...I have no clue what this is...I havn't yet the time to get into the lore of the game...but it looks like one huge phallus...(Yes I used phallus!) Sorry XD I just couldn't help pointing that out...

have a read here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-plot-analysis

[LillithaFenimore]

Yea... I love that about the FF series



Agreed unless it is man made and features some type of propulsion system
Also, people mistakenly fear the "Gravity field" of the moon when the impending Impact and even the magnetic field" pose a much more serious threat


have a read here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-plot-analysis

Thanks for the link, will check it out tonight or tomorrow. Can't wait to read