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    Player Kathryn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylpharia View Post
    The reasons I don't support them is because I do not agree with their methods and their CONSTANT harrassment of other topics that remote mention the word 'healer'
    I also don't think that a few hundred out of 30+ mil players refusing to play a role will do anything in the grand scheme of things so there's that 2.
    I agree with you, I've just been reading the forums over the last few days and as soon as someone mentions they like healer or are happy/not supporting the strike you have the same 5-6 people gang up on the one person calling those who like it stupid or braindead... I won't name names but they know who they are and it's absolutely abhorrent behavior and they should be ashamed of themselves.
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    Manamaru Singen
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
    I agree with you, I've just been reading the forums over the last few days and as soon as someone mentions they like healer or are happy/not supporting the strike you have the same 5-6 people gang up on the one person calling those who like it stupid or braindead... I won't name names but they know who they are and it's absolutely abhorrent behavior and they should be ashamed of themselves.
    Which 5-6 are swarming to intimidate those that are happy or like healer?
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    Percibel Theren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manamaru View Post
    Which 5-6 are swarming to intimidate those that are happy or like healer?
    Some people are mildly salty in other threads but that's about it. Kathryn here is just another one of those people who get snarky and then act all hurt when someone returns fire. Nobody is calling people who like the current healers stupid or braindead. The only things being called braindead are the healing jobs themselves. Nobody is "ganging up" on anyone. Some people just can't take disagreement.
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    Some people are mildly salty in other threads but that's about it. Kathryn here is just another one of those people who get snarky and then act all hurt when someone returns fire. Nobody is calling people who like the current healers stupid or braindead. The only things being called braindead are the healing jobs themselves. Nobody is "ganging up" on anyone. Some people just can't take disagreement.
    Oh yes, they are. Pick your way through the strike thread. I dared to mention recently that I actually find I need to heal in DF dungeons, and the first response "liked" by almost 20 people was just trying to insult and belittle me by saying I must be a bad healer (which doesn't even make any sense given the context of the echo chamber's own arguments...). It's very revealing the kind of toxic people are pushing the strike, and if you're someone who likes healing and is willing to speak up about it, you definitely see the cabal ganging up on people.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Oh yes, they are. Pick your way through the strike thread. I dared to mention recently that I actually find I need to heal in DF dungeons, and the first response "liked" by almost 20 people was just trying to insult and belittle me by saying I must be a bad healer (which doesn't even make any sense given the context of the echo chamber's own arguments...). It's very revealing the kind of toxic people are pushing the strike, and if you're someone who likes healing and is willing to speak up about it, you definitely see the cabal ganging up on people.
    And the pages upon pages of people calling us everything from casual idiots who need to do savage to toxic raiders who want to exclude the casuals not to mention the unhinged fanboy that decided to stalk all our logs to create a spreadsheet for the content creators to use and the amount of vitriol directed towards Gemina including people who are publicly posting and laughing at her logs doesn’t count

    You certainly have a very one sided view of the problems here. There definitely seems to be a strong element of “strikers you need to police the entirety of your sides arguments” but then when someone opposes the strike and goes unhinged it’s “hey man that’s their opinion”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    You certainly have a very one sided view of the problems here. There definitely seems to be a strong element of “strikers you need to police the entirety of your sides arguments” but then when someone opposes the strike and goes unhinged it’s “hey man that’s their opinion”
    And here's the perfect example of someone being dismissive, one-sided, and ironically being toxic:

    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealQuah View Post
    Have you seen the majority of the people in the healer thread. They are horrible people who are nasty, dismiss others opinions and make personal attacks for no reason. You can't have a different opinion in there without being attacked.

    I don't think the people who are in the healer strike represent our positive, helpful and respectful community, and they should be ignored.
    If people didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards at all.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now and this needs to be rectified with the following:
    1. An engaging DPS kit beyond a nuke and DoT.
    2. Increased incoming damage so we have more to heal.
    3. Distinctive playstyles amongst the healers.
    4. Some nerfs to non-healer heals, we shouldn't be replaceable.