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  1. #71
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    Galvuu's Avatar
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    Galveira Vorfeed
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    Ragnarok
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    I don't support the strike tbh and the behaviour of those involved aswell as there obvious lack of experience in harder content while seemingly talking from authority is kind of jarring. I saw many people goading for the sprouts and current players to be inconvenienced or straight up left unable to participate in content think themselves so important that should they leave that there entire server would suffer. Its mind boggling. Luckily. My bf is a sage so the healer strike hasn't effected me or my ques. The whole thing just became so cringe that I walked away from it.
    There are people literally posting their savage week 1 and Ultimate clear logs in the strike thread to show the healing problems.
    I also detest this kind of opinion that only week 1 clearers and Ultimate raiders are allowed to have an opinion. Savage and Ultimate combined make for less than 10% of the game's content.
    Everyone should be allowed to have input if their arguments are sound. Either way, your take here doesn't track because there are savage and ultimate raiders that are discontent with healer design and balance in the strike thread.
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  2. #72
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    I can go through all of the pages and put up statistics too. If there is a methodology showing how the information was collected and easily verifiable, please link it here and I will stand corrected. I also randomly checked to see the progress of some of the more vocal people here and 99% did not touch anything that is beyond casual content.

    And yes, you dabbed in some EX, but even so, you failed to grasp the entirety of your class. It's not just about the healing, it's also about uptime, slide casting, clipping, utilizing your entire kit effectively while executing mechanics, and having as little overheal as possible. No job is unidimensional.
    Do I meet your standards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  3. #73
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    Instead of just ignoring feedback, what they actually need is getting more people to playtest the game on their end. Having the entire team in charge of designing combat actually play all the roles and see if they are genuinely enjoyable to play or not...
    Naaah.... Instead what we're getting is them removing healer tester from their team because they just learned how to heal in an EX trial lol.
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  4. #74
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    Kohashi's Avatar
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    Lucaon Soho
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Do I meet your standards?
    Sure, acceptable. You are 1 in how many?

    Since when changes are done on outliers? If you don't enjoy the role why do you insist on it?
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  5. #75
    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Eizen Aifread
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    Typhon
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    I can go through all of the pages and put up statistics too. If there is a methodology showing how the information was collected and easily verifiable, please link it here and I will stand corrected. I also randomly checked to see the progress of some of the more vocal people here and 99% did not touch anything that is beyond casual content.

    And yes, you dabbed in some EX, but even so, you failed to grasp the entirety of your class. It's not just about the healing, it's also about uptime, slide casting, clipping, utilizing your entire kit effectively while executing mechanics, and having as little overheal as possible. No job is unidimensional.
    Says someone who hasn't cleared P12S and mostly wear grey robes
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  6. #76
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Naaah.... Instead what we're getting is them removing healer tester from their team because they just learned how to heal in an EX trial lol.
    Remember this gem? https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...340b373870140b
    Where they ended up testing the boss so much that they ended up learning how to play the fucking game and ended up doing better than average... Which lead to them ending up wanting to slightly adjust P8S...
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  7. #77
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    Naychan's Avatar
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    Naychan Le'mew
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    They don’t listen to any other feedback from the healer community. Their answer is always wait and see. We have waited we have seen. Many of my friend groups have been running w/o a healer for quite a while now and we burn through the dungeon. Only one of us is a high end raider. We clear experts maybe with 1-3 deaths which the extra dps makes up for. As a healer main who started in 2016 im ok if everybody gets more healing and they just ditch the healer class at this point. Just strike the final nail into the coffin and let everyone enjoy their dps classes.
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  9. #78
    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Adamantoise
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    Remember this gem? https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...340b373870140b
    Where they ended up testing the boss so much that they ended up learning how to play the fucking game and ended up doing better than average... Which lead to them ending up wanting to slightly adjust P8S...
    The top percentage of players are overwhelmingly better at the game than we are.
    Then how about you listen to those players who are currently telling you that your job design is a joke. Jesus.
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    Last edited by Isala; 07-01-2024 at 09:12 PM.

  10. #79
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    Aldath's Avatar
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    Ghael Rehw-setlas
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I wouldn't consider most of the reasons childish. I won't support it by action, but I do in spirit.

    Personally I'm OK if nothing changes as I play Healer to, well, heal people; that's the fun for me. Yes, I only have a DoT and a spam attack, but MOST people who play this game do it on a level in which I still have to use my abilities to ensure success.

    I know where they're coming from, but leveling a Picto on my own with FATEs and DS has been grueling and queueing as Healer means at least someone will be able to have a slightly better experience.

    That said, there's many things I wish could change in the game and frustrate me, and that's why I support it in spirit, because at least some action is being taken, and if in the end it turns out the majority is proven to want those changes, even if I'm OK with the role, what can I do?
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  11. #80
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Then how about you listen to those players who are currently telling you that your job design in a joke. Jesus.
    Not really that they should listen to just the top percentage players... But this part I would definitely like to point to as a top tier example of what kind of people are testing the game for us users.
    This latest installment features a boss closely tied to the dark past of a major character, and so we were focused on making this battle even more of a challenge than usual. As such, the battle team spent an inordinate amount of time together designing and testing the fight mechanics, which in turn led to them improving party coordination and communication beyond what they might usually achieve for a given boss fight.
    Their dedicated and purpose built team for testing content learned about silly things like coordination and communication because they wiped too much.
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