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  1. #121
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    Wind-up Everyone
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    Supporting the weakest candidate means you get to fight all the strong contenders instead of just two. This also means there is leverage to either force alignment with the scion’s world order or directly seize power. Maybe the story will present some less cynical reason.
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  2. #122
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    Connor Whelan
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    Who even cares? The entire ‘election’ storyline is obviously going to be hijacked and rigged by Ascians (because every plot thread in ffxiv ends with ascians). We’ve already seen one from the promotional materials.

    It’s not a continuation of the Hydaelyn/Zodiark story if there’s a girl ascian who comes out of nowhere, so unique and fresh! Never-before-seen!

    I also predict the election will literally be a case of ‘very obvious villain’ vs ‘overtly telegraphed hero’ with no in-between, so it’s not even really an ‘election’ as much as it is a case of ‘good guy vs bad guy’.

    Yes, I do in fact have a crystal ball that shows me the exact future and thus am fully confident this will really be real
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    Last edited by Connor; 06-19-2024 at 11:26 PM.

  3. #123
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    I really hope they do something to develop her character more, because her introduction wasn't very impressive, imo. I'll agree to some new adventures, but I'm not sold on the politics or trying to directly help her yet.

    The launch trailer didn't do anything except reinforce these feelings for me. The 3 times she is shown, her voicelines are all variations of the same "I'm Wuk Lamat and I will be Dawnservant" sentiment. We get it.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    I really hope they do something to develop her character more, because her introduction wasn't very impressive, imo. I'll agree to some new adventures, but I'm not sold on the politics or trying to directly help her yet.

    The launch trailer didn't do anything except reinforce these feelings for me. The 3 times she is shown, her voicelines are all variations of the same "I'm Wuk Lamat and I will be Dawnservant" sentiment. We get it.
    Yeah, really not looking forward to going to Tural with her. Hopefully we ditch her ASAP!
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Who even cares? The entire ‘election’ storyline is obviously going to be hijacked and rigged by Ascians (because every plot thread in ffxiv ends with ascians). We’ve already seen one from the promotional materials.

    It’s not a continuation of the Hydaelyn/Zodiark story if there’s a girl ascian who comes out of nowhere, so unique and fresh! Never-before-seen!

    I also predict the election will literally be a case of ‘very obvious villain’ vs ‘overtly telegraphed hero’ with no in-between, so it’s not even really an ‘election’ as much as it is a case of ‘good guy vs bad guy’.

    Yes, I do in fact have a crystal ball that shows me the exact future and thus am fully confident this will really be real
    for one that girl looks more like she going to be allagan releated for 2 if only it was an ascian it might have hope for some darkness instend of futureistc bullshit



    (yes all ffs have high technology type things this is true) but it wasnt so overly done nonstop like it is in 14 we have enough cyberpunk future technology for 30 years in the game already
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    Last edited by Graveyardprincess; 06-25-2024 at 06:35 AM.

  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimalsALot View Post
    Yeah, really not looking forward to going to Tural with her. Hopefully we ditch her ASAP!
    Maybe she'll be betrayed and die at level 91 or so in the story for an actual plot twist.

    Given how they Mary-Sued her into being OP in EW, I doubt this will happen lol.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Maybe she'll be betrayed and die at level 91 or so in the story for an actual plot twist.

    Given how they Mary-Sued her into being OP in EW, I doubt this will happen lol.
    What are you talking about? How is Wuk-Lamet a mary sue or 'OP?' I mean sure she's useful in the instance fight but not above and beyond what other characters have done to limit break down enemies or protect us from mechanics.

    And the scene with her hand shaking suggests she isn't actually as confident as she pretends to be, leaving room for character growth. She's bombastic and competent. And I can certainly see why her personality would be grating to some people, and I do hope there's more to her character in DT than 'I will be the hokage!' But she hasn't been shown to be 'OP' imo.
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    Last edited by Bright-Flower; 06-25-2024 at 07:31 AM.

  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    What are you talking about? How is Wuk-Lamet a mary sue or 'OP?' I mean sure she's useful in the instance fight but not above and beyond what other characters have done to limit break down enemies or protect us from mechanics.

    And the scene with her hand shaking suggests she isn't actually as confident as she pretends to be, leaving room for character growth. She's bombastic and competent. And I can certainly see why her personality would be grating to some people, and I do hope there's more to her character in DT than 'I will be the hokage!' But she hasn't been shown to be 'OP' imo.
    Literally put us in a situation where she had to save us. Odd considering all our accomplishments and felt forced.
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  9. #129
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    oh my god you people cannot be serious the game hasn't even dropped yet. how have you found every made-up, grasping-at-straws reason to hate a character that hasnt even gotten a quarter of her allotted screentime yet. how
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  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by catgirlcrisis View Post
    oh my god you people cannot be serious the game hasn't even dropped yet. how have you found every made-up, grasping-at-straws reason to hate a character that hasnt even gotten a quarter of her allotted screentime yet. how
    First impressions are a thing.

    I found this character a bit much and grating to be around.

    Also wouldn't your comment apply just as much to those who immediately fell in love with her?

    For reference, the characters my personality really gels with are Yshtola, Hien, Yugiri, Kan-E-Senna, Minfilia, Ardbert, and Estinian. I just dislike characters that feel a bit....hyper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by catgirlcrisis View Post
    thank you for proving my point! first impressions are as you say - first impressions. there's not enough there yet to dig into the true meat of wuk lamat's character to call her a "mary sue" (an outdated, useless term that means absolutely nothing and certainly doesn't apply to wuk lamat), naive, weak, etc. there's not enough there to dismiss wuk lamat or to truly analyze her on a deeper level to make any sort of decisive calls on whether or not she'll be a trash character. give her a chance.

    and yes, it would! i don't see how that's a "gotcha!" at all? if someone fell in love with wuk lamat at first glance, then obviously they are allowed to be criticized and/or change their mind later WHEN we have spent more time getting to know wuk lamat as a character. which is. you know. My Entire Point.

    wuk lamat has received incessant hate from day one for no real reason. well, there are real reasons, but you either know them or you don't. she's been in the game for all of fifteen minutes, give her a chance before you start trying to "deconstruct" her as a "mary sue" who sucks and has no business leading her country. you, as a player and a reader, are literally not supposed to know if that's true or not yet.
    Welp, I just don't like her. She's not my cup of tea. Glad you like her. Seems she means a lot more to you already than she does to me.

    My gut reaction to her needing to save us was actual eye-rolling and saying to myself, "Wow they really want us to like her." It had the opposite effect on me. It's fair to react to the content already in the game.

    If she is who I'm going to be spending most of the expansion with, I am not really looking forward to that. It's fine that that is my honest feelings on this fictional character, and it's fine if you like her.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 06-25-2024 at 08:17 AM.

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