No class identity and completely over simplified

[HikariKurosawa]

Did you ever watch what Yoshi said about Dawntrail ? They made preview alpha version of some dungeon with statistics of warrior solo tanking dungeon without healer meanwhile Yoshi said whole developer team try to inspire with Elden Ring and how hard is to play it. Also he said few times Dawntrail will be more hard than any expansion before....maybe they dont want to scare people before release and players true experience. Maybe it will be really important to be a healer if Yoshi really said it will be hard....and honestly....i think it will be.

Have you watched that run? He is doing single pulls. You can not do wall to wall pulling without a healer in this game even if overgeared.

[mellii]

Have you watched that run? He is doing single pulls. You can not do wall to wall pulling without a healer in this game even if overgeared.

He is actually doing wall to wall pulls as well (if you look at that timestamp https://youtu.be/VqBWp00XNZs?t=450 )

[Mrjokerswild]

Everyone has said tanks are the issue and while agree with warriors are waaaaaay over tuned healing wise. Dark knights have had no changes to there sustain. The healing you receive from tanking should be I'd around 85% healed 15% sustain. Not the other way around. And since dark knight has no real sustain, we'll if there are no healers playing then there's no reason to play dark knight. Just my opinion.

[Jeeqbit]

Everyone has said tanks are the issue and while agree with warriors are waaaaaay over tuned healing wise. Dark knights have had no changes to there sustain. The healing you receive from tanking should be I'd around 85% healed 15% sustain. Not the other way around. And since dark knight has no real sustain, we'll if there are no healers playing then there's no reason to play dark knight. Just my opinion.

Hey now, I have solo'd the Amaurot last boss as a DRK multiple times.

TBN can give you enough time to recover with Souleater, but it requires far more skill to manage your cooldowns correctly for the big hits. Which is how it should be. It shouldn't be that a new player just does it without a healer blindfolded. It should only be enough self-healing if you successfully time the mit for the big hits phase of the boss rotation.

When I mained it in Shadowbringers, there were genuinely a lot of level 80 dungeons where I didn't really need a healer as a DRK as well, due to TBN+Shadow Wall and the item level disparity.

[Valence]

Everyone has said tanks are the issue and while agree with warriors are waaaaaay over tuned healing wise. Dark knights have had no changes to there sustain. The healing you receive from tanking should be I'd around 85% healed 15% sustain. Not the other way around. And since dark knight has no real sustain, we'll if there are no healers playing then there's no reason to play dark knight. Just my opinion.

People keep saying that DRK has nothing, but DRK actually has abyssal drain for every big pull to regen what got through TBN spamm.

As for 2 pulls out of 6, they can just LD and live the WAR's life to the fullest.

[Jeeqbit]

He is doing single pulls. You can not do wall to wall pulling without a healer in this game even if overgeared.

Absolutely untrue (I say as a tank main for the last decade). It depends on which wall pull.

But old dungeons where they were a struggle were often doable with Clemency as a PLD if not on other tanks with TBN/Abyssal Drain and Bloodbath/Raw Intuition, but now they are just easier due to battle system changes.

Newer dungeons (Shadowbringers and Endwalker), large pulls can be handled by just tanks, including many of the ones in leveling dungeons (but there are certain pulls that could be a struggle or too difficult depending on technique). But a lot of them are easy due to not being leveling dungeons, which means the item level growth makes it a joke to do a big pull without a healer.

he confirmed in the LL on Friday that the MSQ dungeons would be par for the course, as expected (so not much harder), however once you reach lvl 100 dungeons, things would start to get spicier.

Specifically, he meant that the 2 sidequest expert dungeons would be harder. This is because they are not required for the MSQ. It should be noted that we don't get any other sidequest dungeons in the entire expansion, unless you include the 3 V&C dungeons.

He also mentioned content getting harder or more exciting in 7.2. But I think this should be taken in the context of sidequest content as well - raids, extremes and field operations. It should also be noted that this is quite normal. The first tier is intended to be easier, as are the first extreme trials, "because people are getting used to their new rotation" and the amount of new players they get.

[Rithy255]

Have you watched that run? He is doing single pulls. You can not do wall to wall pulling without a healer in this game even if overgeared.

This is just isn't true, If you actually played tank you'd know it's doable to wall to wall even on solo dark knight in some cases, I think you saw the first part where they literally forced to single pull because they were on a moving platform.

I bet you a warrior or even Paladin can wall to wall in the current experts with min item level enabled.

[fulminating]

I bet you a warrior or even Paladin can wall to wall in the current experts with min item level enabled.

Having run it subsequently and been astounded at how much faster it went, I am reasonably confident that I did 90% of that in my first run of lapis manalis. It wasn’t particularly stressful.