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    No class identity and completely over simplified

    Just want to preface I've been a healer main for basically every mmo out there. This is just honestly by far the worst healing experience I've ever played. The entire role is just not even needed somehow and that's fine whatever. It's been like that for 2 years with no fix and no care. So if I'm spending 99 percent of my time in 80 percent of the Content dpsing. Why do I only get literally 1 button . It's honestly just completely stupid.
    I guess yoshi p said he knows? But then said there won't be anything done about til 8.0 2 years from now? Lol yikes. It's really sad that I had more dps buttons at level 70 than I will at level 100. How does that make sense.
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    I'm so annoyed I already pre ordered dawn trail. But this going to be the very first time I just blaze through the msq and unsub. I've never like had a thought about planning to unsub but if nothing is done for 2 years then that's just depressing
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    Thurinor Istor
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    Well, I agree, let healers jobs have special mechanics for healing in the form of maybe a puzzle, jumping or running on some platforms that only they can see, even if the condition is an emote or something else special to liven up the fun of playing. But I disagree with taking away the ability of other jobs to somehow heal even if they are able to survive anything without a healer.
    Unlike other MMOs, I have a great feeling from FFXIV that none of the jobs are anything extra special except for the type of combat and the appearance of spells. And that way I don't get healers playing god that I have to kiss the shoes of to pass an instance. And that's the right thing to do.
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    Well, good thing you haven't pre-orde...

    Quote Originally Posted by KvotheCadera View Post
    I'm so annoyed I already pre ordered dawn trail. But this going to be the very first time I just blaze through the msq and unsub.
    oh. Well, I'm sure subbing, buying the expansion and then definitely NOT subbing more is definitely going to stick it to SE.
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    Can I have your stuff?
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    Did you ever watch what Yoshi said about Dawntrail ? They made preview alpha version of some dungeon with statistics of warrior solo tanking dungeon without healer meanwhile Yoshi said whole developer team try to inspire with Elden Ring and how hard is to play it. Also he said few times Dawntrail will be more hard than any expansion before....maybe they dont want to scare people before release and players true experience. Maybe it will be really important to be a healer if Yoshi really said it will be hard....and honestly....i think it will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasOfEger View Post
    Did you ever watch what Yoshi said about Dawntrail ? They made preview alpha version of some dungeon with statistics of warrior solo tanking dungeon without healer meanwhile Yoshi said whole developer team try to inspire with Elden Ring and how hard is to play it. Also he said few times Dawntrail will be more hard than any expansion before....maybe they dont want to scare people before release and players true experience. Maybe it will be really important to be a healer if Yoshi really said it will be hard....and honestly....i think it will be.
    hard to say, I have been to that dance before. "more hard" is relative. more hard does not make for an engaging play style.. just more frustrating. and will be the same dance with the same music.... likely for 2 years. I would happily be wrong, but I am not going to base my hopes on it.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Quote Originally Posted by KvotheCadera View Post
    Just want to preface I've been a healer main for basically every mmo out there. This is just honestly by far the worst healing experience I've ever played. The entire role is just not even needed somehow and that's fine whatever. It's been like that for 2 years with no fix and no care. So if I'm spending 99 percent of my time in 80 percent of the Content dpsing. Why do I only get literally 1 button . It's honestly just completely stupid.
    I guess yoshi p said he knows? But then said there won't be anything done about til 8.0 2 years from now? Lol yikes. It's really sad that I had more dps buttons at level 70 than I will at level 100. How does that make sense.
    Because healers complained since ARR -> Shb about :

    —I'm a healer stop asking me for DPS.
    —Remove cleric stance its giving me anxiety and then again I'm not a dps.
    —This role is too hard and everyone is pointing at me , please make it easy.
    —Please remove the dots what the hell man I refuse to do anything else besides healing.
    —Stop telling me how to play my role and for the last time I'm not feeling good doing pulls to wall.

    Now that SE fixed the issue people complains lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasOfEger View Post
    Did you ever watch what Yoshi said about Dawntrail ? They made preview alpha version of some dungeon with statistics of warrior solo tanking dungeon without healer meanwhile Yoshi said whole developer team try to inspire with Elden Ring and how hard is to play it. Also he said few times Dawntrail will be more hard than any expansion before....maybe they dont want to scare people before release and players true experience. Maybe it will be really important to be a healer if Yoshi really said it will be hard....and honestly....i think it will be.
    Have you watched that run? He is doing single pulls. You can not do wall to wall pulling without a healer in this game even if overgeared.
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    Holuikhan Horo
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Have you watched that run? He is doing single pulls. You can not do wall to wall pulling without a healer in this game even if overgeared.
    He is actually doing wall to wall pulls as well (if you look at that timestamp https://youtu.be/VqBWp00XNZs?t=450 )
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