What is the point of playing tank other than warrior?

[Tunda]

Other tanks are actually fun.

Fun but weaker

[GoatOfWar]

Fun but weaker

It's the natural end result of the balance team listening to Warriors who complain any time another tank does something better.
Endless streamlining, homogenisation and unwarranted buffs in pursuit to make sure no tank ever has an opportunity to stand out other than Warrior has led us here.
All tanks can clear, but you have no reason to ever play any tank over War.

Warrior is the only tank in the game that can still do things that are unique to them. And where playing Warrior made the difference. (Or as others would call it; a moment of glory)
Be it through some unreal amount of self sustain, having the best party mit, double dipping their personal or their invuln allowing them to skip entire tank mechanics that other tanks can't due to their cooldown.
All the other tanks lost theirs to make the loud streamers and their viewers happy. Even a 4% dps difference was deemed unfair. Because you apparently can not tax the tank with the best version of every tank cooldown in the game.

[Oizen]

Fun but weaker

There are distinct upsides to the other tanks, that usually almost exclusive stem from superior raw mitigation, both PLD and DRK can put out higher mitigation at a much faster rate than WAR, but its very rarely relevant.

Hopefully DT potencies put WAR back where it belongs in terms of damage but we'll see.

[CaedemSanguis]

Fun but weaker

Week1 p8s disagree

[Rithy255]

Week1 p8s disagree

Oh I didn't know we time travelled back to p8s week 1.

Almost like they over compensated warrior after p8s... almost like they maybe perhaps buffed its damage and raid wide... just a hunch.

[CaedemSanguis]

Oh I didn't know we time travelled back to p8s week 1.

Almost like they over compensated warrior after p8s... almost like they maybe perhaps buffed its damage and raid wide... just a hunch.

Rank 3 warrior disapeared during week1 p8s

How can you say that warrior is the best tank

Warrior is «*good*» for dungeon and it’s not thaaaat good since you can just offgcd heal other tanks

Savage/Ultimates/Criterion Savage doesn’t have enough damage to make the war self healing so good that you need to have a warrior, and so you will prefer to have good damage tanks than «*not having to off gcd heal from time to time*»

The biggest advantage for War is Holmgang, you have an extra usage in some content

And from what I see on fflog, adps/6.4/95th percentile, for each savage fights drk>gnb > pld&war

[MikoRemi]

Rank 3 warrior disapeared during week1 p8s

How can you say that warrior is the best tank

Warrior is «*good*» for dungeon and it’s not thaaaat good since you can just offgcd heal other tanks

Savage/Ultimates/Criterion Savage doesn’t have enough damage to make the war self healing so good that you need to have a warrior, and so you will prefer to have good damage tanks than «*not having to off gcd heal from time to time*»

The biggest advantage for War is Holmgang, you have an extra usage in some content

And from what I see on fflog, adps/6.4/95th percentile, for each savage fights drk>gnb > pld&war

As a WAR main, this. WAR is fantastic but the people here love to act like its the antichrist just because the lower content it does do well in, it does well. To just about any content above it, you need your healers. Even with the cases where there's no healer clears like TOP, yeah we got the meme group but it's not so common that everyone's doing it, pretty sure it's rare even amongst the higher end players as a fun challenge.

I still love WAR myself but like bruh, it's a good job but until I see Bloodwhetting sap 20% HP off a boss somehow, I think we gucci. Better to find buffs for the others if that since this isn't a game that deals in nerfs like a silly KRMMO. I can tell you though even after months ago, the opinions won't change sadly so I'll just go sail into DT, whether or not WAR is amazing at the start, it'll be fine. It's a job that has little fear of long term badness which I can enjoy as a break from MCH.

[Tunda]

Rank 3 warrior disapeared during week1 p8s

How can you say that warrior is the best tank

Warrior is «*good*» for dungeon and it’s not thaaaat good since you can just offgcd heal other tanks

Savage/Ultimates/Criterion Savage doesn’t have enough damage to make the war self healing so good that you need to have a warrior, and so you will prefer to have good damage tanks than «*not having to off gcd heal from time to time*»

The biggest advantage for War is Holmgang, you have an extra usage in some content

And from what I see on fflog, adps/6.4/95th percentile, for each savage fights drk>gnb > pld&war

tell me one thing that other tank can do and WAR cannot

[MikoRemi]

tell me one thing that other tank can do and WAR cannot

PLD can disengage more easily with their magic combos compared to other tanks but especially WAR. Tomahawk is not an equivalent, Shield Lob is the equivalent there, and yes even with the bigger hitboxes there are still times like Zeromus where the arena is just that big so that it can be useful.

DRK damage in general is generally high along with their massive shielding which can be better post prog when healing isn't an issue. WAR at most has Shake it Off and Bloodwhetting but the shielding is on the lower side by comparison. Pretty sure DRK was just fine during the P8S week1 memes.

GNB has the higher APM for tanks who can't stand idle hands while dishing out a general balance of some dps and healing, even more so than Paladin thanks to Heart of Corundum and Aurora. WAR is a much simpler tank that runs slower by comparison. Also was just fine during the P8S week1 memes.

WAR is fun, I'm happy if the other tanks can get some stuff too, but please. It's not hard to see differences. But that's the tank threads in a nutshell. B)

[GoatOfWar]

PLD can disengage more easily with their magic combos compared to other tanks but especially WAR. Tomahawk is not an equivalent, Shield Lob is the equivalent there, and yes even with the bigger hitboxes there are still times like Zeromus where the arena is just that big so that it can be useful.

DRK damage in general is generally high along with their massive shielding which can be better post prog when healing isn't an issue. WAR at most has Shake it Off and Bloodwhetting but the shielding is on the lower side by comparison. Pretty sure DRK was just fine during the P8S week1 memes.

GNB has the higher APM for tanks who can't stand idle hands while dishing out a general balance of some dps and healing, even more so than Paladin thanks to Heart of Corundum and Aurora. WAR is a much simpler tank that runs slower by comparison. Also was just fine during the P8S week1 memes.

WAR is fun, I'm happy if the other tanks can get some stuff too, but please. It's not hard to see differences. But that's the tank threads in a nutshell. B)

The tanks all do the same damage, and all the fights are full melee uptime.