What is the point of playing tank other than warrior?

[CaedemSanguis]

Oh I didn't know we time travelled back to p8s week 1.

Almost like they over compensated warrior after p8s... almost like they maybe perhaps buffed its damage and raid wide... just a hunch.

Rank 3 warrior disapeared during week1 p8s

How can you say that warrior is the best tank

Warrior is «*good*» for dungeon and it’s not thaaaat good since you can just offgcd heal other tanks

Savage/Ultimates/Criterion Savage doesn’t have enough damage to make the war self healing so good that you need to have a warrior, and so you will prefer to have good damage tanks than «*not having to off gcd heal from time to time*»

The biggest advantage for War is Holmgang, you have an extra usage in some content

And from what I see on fflog, adps/6.4/95th percentile, for each savage fights drk>gnb > pld&war

[Payadopa]

If we don't need healers because it's fine if other roles invalidate another then I request tank Titan back so SMNs can invalidate tanks so everything balances out.

[Tunda]

If we don't need healers because it's fine if other roles invalidate another then I request tank Titan back so SMNs can invalidate tanks so everything balances out.

You are so right

[Rithy255]

If we don't need healers because it's fine if other roles invalidate another then I request tank Titan back so SMNs can invalidate tanks so everything balances out.

To go fall circle bring back cleric stance but it makes Healers do more damage then DPS While inside of cleric stance.

This way we can have tanks who are healing, Dps who are Tanking, Healers who are highest DPS.

[MagiusNecros]

Gunbreaker does more damage. So there is that.

[Kaixern]

I can still remember the ractions to the problems of DRK in previous expansions

Shadowbringer:
"You don't need to have a rework or even any changes, DRK has the best mitigation in the game with TBN!"

Endwalker:
"You don't need to have a rework or even any changes, DRK has the best damage of all tanks!"

I wonder what is going to be the excuse this expansion.
Or maybe we are going to have more people to acknowledge problems coming from this class when it comes to gameplay and class identity/design and not divert the attention to potency issues.
(One can dream)

[CKNovel]

PLD has access to 2 raid wide mitigation but also a "ranged combo". In EW we never benefited from it but in previous expansion it would've been a huge deal.

DRK has access to TBN and Dark Mind, making DRK fantastic against tank buster that happens every minutes. Living Dead is also much more flexible than Holmgang, but it's true Holmgang wins big thanks to that 60s CD gap. Imo Holmgang should be balanced with a bigger cooldown but get a massive hot to compensate.

GNB has access to Corundum, arguably the best short tank cooldown, and a higher DPS that synchronize better with 2 mins buff.

WAR is in a very good position but very far from invalidating other tanks.

[Tunda]

PLD has access to 2 raid wide mitigation but also a "ranged combo". In EW we never benefited from it but in previous expansion it would've been a huge deal.

DRK has access to TBN and Dark Mind, making DRK fantastic against tank buster that happens every minutes. Living Dead is also much more flexible than Holmgang, but it's true Holmgang wins big thanks to that 60s CD gap. Imo Holmgang should be balanced with a bigger cooldown but get a massive hot to compensate.

GNB has access to Corundum, arguably the best short tank cooldown, and a higher DPS that synchronize better with 2 mins buff.

WAR is in a very good position but very far from invalidating other tanks.

Paladin is the closest to the best tank which is warrior.. but still not even a match.. you can't fail playing warrior.. combos are simple and clean with access of all types of mitigation and healing..

At least healers have somewhat extension between shield healers and regin healers

[CKNovel]

Paladin is the closest to the best tank which is warrior.. but still not even a match.. you can't fail playing warrior.. combos are simple and clean with access of all types of mitigation and healing..

I'm assuming they are evaluated on similar level. You can hardly fail playing any tank jobs, they are different but they're still similar to play.
You can't exactly fail as a PLD, you might have a resource problem with GNB & DRK if you play without thinking but it's not like going from WAR to GNB is making to be a massive difficulty gap.

Paladin having access to both shield & percentage based mitigation is more valuable that you can think.

If anything, I think WAR's biggest advantages are holmgang and its damage consistency thanks to so many auto direct crit.