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  1. #311
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    Siy's Avatar
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    Siyan S'lydia
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    Twintania
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Very sad to see so many people so vocal about something they aren't particularly invested in.
    I don't feel like there's anything I can add that hasn't already been said, but I agree completely with the initial message in this thread. Please reconsider BLM changes.
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  2. #312
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    MitsukiKimura's Avatar
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    Mitsuki Akiyumi
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    Malboro
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Irrelevant. Everything I said in that post was true. Why would I be good at black mage or even anything in this game? Why does that matter in this context? Focus on the subject at hand and not random duty finder parses.
    You're not good at the job and you have way less experience with it than the general people here that have good reason to give feedback. You never cleared any savage content with it and your "Parses" are in normal raids. Would like to continue or are you done?
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  3. #313
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    Maric Ward
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    Lich
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura View Post
    You're not good at the job and you have way less experience with it than the general people here that have good reason to give feedback. You never cleared any savage content with it and your "Parses" are in normal raids. Would like to continue or are you done?
    And where is the problem with only clearing normal raids?
    Everyone who plays a class for a longer time has the right to give there opinion.
    Even the ones, who are new to a class or had problems with a earlier Version (had some problems with the paladin before his rework in EW -the flow wasnt so nice for me with the meele phase and the casting phase-, but after the new adjustments had i no noticable problems, and with that, do i liked the newer version more).

    Are you saying, that my opinion would be even worthless, only, because i never did savage or ultimate raids? With any class. Only, extrem Zodiak and Hydaelin (as Blm and some meele). Even, when i played Blm for years now (i only think about switching to drg, because Blm becomes a little boring over time, when you know the content allready)?

    You dont need to play hard or very hard or more, to notice, what gameplay mechanic you like or not. Even normal raids or old content can be chaotic enough for that (i look at you, Dun Scaith).

    In the end have whe to wait for the final adjustments (heared, that there are sometimes differences between Media Tour and final product). And its even a taste matter. And what kind of rotation you like (i had stated multiple times, that this non Standard stuff isnt logical for me, because they refuse half of the kit, while in contrast, do i not care about every little Detail or second of Action, as long as the flow is right).
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  4. #314
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    MitsukiKimura's Avatar
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    Mitsuki Akiyumi
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keichi View Post
    And where is the problem with only clearing normal raids?
    Everyone who plays a class for a longer time has the right to give there opinion.
    Even the ones, who are new to a class or had problems with a earlier Version (had some problems with the paladin before his rework in EW -the flow wasnt so nice for me with the meele phase and the casting phase-, but after the new adjustments had i no noticable problems, and with that, do i liked the newer version more).

    Are you saying, that my opinion would be even worthless, only, because i never did savage or ultimate raids? With any class. Only, extrem Zodiak and Hydaelin (as Blm and some meele). Even, when i played Blm for years now (i only think about switching to drg, because Blm becomes a little boring over time, when you know the content allready)?

    You dont need to play hard or very hard or more, to notice, what gameplay mechanic you like or not. Even normal raids or old content can be chaotic enough for that (i look at you, Dun Scaith).

    In the end have whe to wait for the final adjustments (heared, that there are sometimes differences between Media Tour and final product). And its even a taste matter. And what kind of rotation you like (i had stated multiple times, that this non Standard stuff isnt logical for me, because they refuse half of the kit, while in contrast, do i not care about every little Detail or second of Action, as long as the flow is right).
    Every opinion can be voiced and heard. Though if you're going to voice your opinion please give your feedback other then the obvious feedback "Thats how it is" "Get good" Or "Its better this way"
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  5. #315
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    HikariKurosawa's Avatar
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    Hikaru Kurosawa
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 95
    Quote Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura View Post
    Every opinion can be voiced and heard. Though if you're going to voice your opinion please give your feedback other then the obvious feedback "Thats how it is" "Get good" Or "Its better this way"
    Can you explain how I was wrong about what I said to that person? They explained what made the black mage hard by design and said it would be painful for them to "suffer through". Something happens when you get good at the job and encounters, and that is a lack of suffering. The suffering comes from mistakes and inexperience, not from the job itself. If you know the limits and the positioning requirements, you just play properly and feel good about it.

    Non-standard has made it so people can avoid learning how to play black mage as intended and this results in them complaining about what they are supposed to be good at. It is better this way and I was pretty clear about why it was. It's also clear that my level of experience is irrelevant just like your experience is irrelevant in this context.
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  6. #316
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Drinking game, grab some lemon juice and take a shot everytime anyone says anything about "as intended" on the job that has been near freeflowing since 2.0.
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  7. #317
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    MitsukiKimura's Avatar
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    Mitsuki Akiyumi
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    Malboro
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Can you explain how I was wrong about what I said to that person? They explained what made the black mage hard by design and said it would be painful for them to "suffer through". Something happens when you get good at the job and encounters, and that is a lack of suffering. The suffering comes from mistakes and inexperience, not from the job itself. If you know the limits and the positioning requirements, you just play properly and feel good about it.

    Non-standard has made it so people can avoid learning how to play black mage as intended and this results in them complaining about what they are supposed to be good at. It is better this way and I was pretty clear about why it was. It's also clear that my level of experience is irrelevant just like your experience is irrelevant in this context.
    I find it hard to believe when you have this many people speaking out against it. Changes "As intended" can be either good or bad design. Given their history on class changes.
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  8. #318
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    Hikaru Kurosawa
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura View Post
    I find it hard to believe when you have this many people speaking out against it. Changes "As intended" can be either good or bad design. Given their history on class changes.
    like 6 people? maybe 7? in a game with millions of players it's not really saying much.
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  9. #319
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    The Black Mage is dead. Long live the Pictomancer.
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  10. #320
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    Malboro
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    like 6 people? maybe 7? in a game with millions of players it's not really saying much.
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