#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[ZoeEudestand]

Put me in the screencap

[GrimGale]

It's such a depressing take that healers have to keep playing a role they're not having fun with so other people can enjoy the game.

That's what it feels like. DPS jobs seem to get fixes and changes on the run (MNK, NIN, even PLD got reworked mid expansion.) while healers have to wait for expansions to be fixed beyond numerical adjustments.

Healers want to feel useful. That's the whole point of the "support" fantasy. You want to feel like you're contributing, you want to be there when a party faulters, you want to be there when a party struggles. But you also want to be always there. You want to always feel useful. Parties will not faulter always. So you have to design healers to be able to contribute in other ways. Buffs, debuffs, CC, direct damage even. Healers need other tools beyond healing if they want to keep feeling useful. The healer fantasy is all about "contributing". These changes make me feel not only I am not really useful, but as If I am holding my party back.

[Galvuu]

I'm reiterating this for like the tenth time, but people are always free to queue up as healer. Hells, in most content it's trivial to play, so I guarantee you that if you have any modicum of experience in modern FF XIV you can make it work effortlessly.
It will even help you, in a way- if the healer shortage is that severe, the queue will pop instantly!
Unless... there is some number of reasons why people don't want to do it themselves, and would prefer if the usual group sacrifices themselves by queuing as healer as usual :>

[Connor]

Yeah, fair enough. I guess I'd just rather not make life harder for others because I'm unable to accept something. Healing isn't the best but it doesn't stop me playing with friends or enjoying the story. So I have no desire to participate in a strike that, if it gains enough traction, would cause chaos and probably create issues in other fields for the rest of the expansion. But I guess others don't see it that way.

I said before but I won’t ’participate’ in the strike myself either, if not just because I tend to queue as Scholar out of habit more than anything else lol. At the same time though, I completely understand why people feel like that it’s the only choice we have left. If things were fine before this expansion I’d totally be on the ‘at least wait until it’s out’ side of things. But sadly given how history has repeated itself, it’s hard for anyone who experienced it to imagine things going differently without taking radical action.

Basically, I don’t think the idea is to make out that people who don’t participate are somehow ‘guilty’ of perpetuating the type of game design. Personally I think the current state of healers is fine. It’s not bad but I don’t find it ‘unplayable’ either. And I think it was the devs that done that rather than any player lol. And there isn’t anything wrong with saying ‘I enjoy healing the way it is currently’ and continuing regardless. Nobody wants to advocate for things to be taken away, they just want to be able to use the things they do have. I think lol

[Minali]

I feel that you can do things that cannot be done in Japanese forums. I don't know what other people think, and I don't know if I'm communicating well. However, I would like to send the words "Yes He Will" to everyone in the overseas forums. If I were to express this in the FF14 style, I would be passing synergy from one Japanese person. I can only support them through synergy. And what would you do if you received synergy? Wouldn't you like to do some damage to increase your DPS? I want everyone overseas to have a "Yes We Can" attitude. Recently, a North American server was added to ease server congestion.

Isn't the timing too good? Is it okay to end it just to alleviate congestion? Isn't this an opportunity for development and Yoshida to outdo themselves? I'll say it once again. Overseas forums are currently attracting attention. I think it's a good idea to start going back and forth on forums in each other's countries and communicate. Furthermore, FF14 now has an environment where you can play across borders with DC Teleport.

This is just an example of my flash idea, but healers only gather on one server, do content with only healers, shoot SS, and create SS where the screen is filled with healer jobs in various places. Upload. Isn't there a way to make such a claim? Isn't there an option that would be fun for those doing the action, fun for those watching, and be astounding for the developers and Mr. Yoshida? This is just my personal opinion. I think users of overseas forums should discuss and decide what choice you will make. I will support you no matter what the outcome is.

This has become a very long post. I really wanted to tell you. very sorry.
I hope this post isn't deleted again. Then my thoughts changed to certainty.

Thank you very much for your long post and many explanations about Japanese culture and Japanese point of view in this discussion! I can see why our part of the forum might seem odd and "wild" to yours, both due to the lack of moderation but also because actions like engaging in demonstrations or a strike are very common, even vital in our cultures in real life. So calling for a strike or boycott online might seem a bit drastic still, but not as irritating and negative as for you, I could imagine. (I certainly would appreciate more active moderation here though, a lot of people are hesitant to give feedback in here because of this. Due to this important opinions are not heard and I fear this might not be good for the game, when many people cannot participate. There are no other good ways to give feedback after all.)

I appreciate you and others coming over here, and you accepting our voices in the Japanese part as well, even though we both have to use a translator. Often people in the English part have the impression, only feedback from Japanese players is being heard, while Japanese players think they are being ignored and us people overseas are getting all attention. In my opinion, if we work together and share ideas instead of being jealous of each other, we can have a much better discussion and get more insight into each other. Of course, if this achieves more, if the devs react more to it, this remains to be seen. I remember there being a thread in Japanese and one in English asking for a Spanish localization, but Yoshida only knows about them, because a Spanish journalist showed it to him on the media tour. However, the question for Spanish localization has more "weight" to it, in a way, when you can show it's a dream shared by many many players and not just this one journalist. In my opinion it can't hurt to connect and share our ideas with each other and spreading the word about whatever meets our fancy in FFXIV. And sometimes our ideas are not that different. Our feedback about the benchmark was very similar to yours. We might have more in common than some people might think.

Regarding the point of team composition though, I am not sure I agree. It can be very exciting to tackle content in unusual combinations with others. I remember people doing an all Summoner game of the first Endwalker Alliance Raid. It looked like a lot of fun and very chaotic with all the visual effects. However, from what I understand, a part of the fun is fighting battles in a way they were not originally supposed to. Planning how to compensate the lack of a healer, a tank or a DPS and then having to work hard to achieve it, that is - in my opinion - one interesting point and challenge in all this. However, if an unusual team composition works a lot better then the average, wouldn't this take the challenge away from this idea? The team in the media tour was a group of very good players, but from what I heard they had many disadvantages and weren't really trying to outsmart the game or anything.
Wouldn't this also hurt queue time, if more people make their own private groups instead of Duty Finder for their daily roulette, because they would want to play without a healer for saving time? (Provided a lot of people would actually do this, of course.)

That said, I agree that it is in general nice the game isn't designed so strict, unusual compositions would be impossible for everything. I could imagine the developers have this in mind when they create duties. However, in my opinion the "standard" normal version should be fun as well and have need for all roles, not only when things go awry a lot and the group need extra healing to cover for this.

Thank you again for joining this discussion. ^^

[mackhax0r]

This is beyond frustrating, and I'm in!

It's already boring in dungeons where the tank is a Warrior, I can pretty much do no healing and the warrior can self sustain. I guess this statement is a complete lie:
"Producer Naoki Yoshida wants to make Final Fantasy 14 more challenging for players in future updates, admitting to making the game too stress-free."

I guess that is a lie.

[Kayokane]

History is riddled with claims that any dissatisfied group has chosen the wrong time, method, or place to complain.

Not to grandstand about how important FFXIV healer issues are in the wider scheme of humankind, but it's a common tactic whether people making the argument genuinely believe what they're saying or not.

It often doesn't hold water because they wouldn't notice or care about the issue if it didn't interfere with their day or perspective in some way. It's nonviolent protest 101.

It's absolutely fine in this case to just not worry about it and keep healing if you find your reasons, but it's not another player's job to make your queue go faster or even function at all if they don't enjoy that role.

At least on a forum like this, any attempt to try and shut the conversation down, just shoots it back to the top of the forums, so more people can approach it and join the discussion.

[Gember]

Zepla made a video of the strike. (I am still watching it.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg_-J2AMh0U

[Roshidon1]

is just silly...

No this thread is silly.

/opens popcorn.

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

If it gains enough traction, would cause chaos and probably create issues in other fields for the rest of the expansion. But I guess others don't see it that way.

How exactly does a, say, 20 minute DPS queue cause chaos?

That's all we're doing, people keep saying that but is it just the big bad "strike" label? We're not DDoSing servers here, we're just playing other jobs.