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    Unfortunately, it seems to be inevitable that at some point, every healer in ffxiv eventually reaches a point where they realize they’re not really a ‘healer’ at all in the the traditional sense of the role. They’re ’dps with one attack button and many many many healing OGCDs’. Which, apparently, everybody now loves? I don’t even know anymore lol.

    Also, I think I understand the point. It seems silly for people in the ‘healer’ role to be advocating for more involved dps abilities when the whole point of the role is traditionally understood as ‘healing/support/buff/debuff/whatever’ as opposed to direct damage.

    The issue here is that many people feel FFXIV simply cannot ever have healing amounts that will ever require a healer to use their full kit. This is why so many people advocate for the reduction of healing abilities and increase of dps options for healers. It’s not that they don’t want to heal, it’s that they feel the game design is never going to change enough to ever let them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Also, I think I understand the point. It seems silly for people in the ‘healer’ role to be advocating for more involved dps abilities when the whole point of the role is traditionally understood as ‘healing/support/buff/debuff/whatever’ as opposed to direct damage.
    Someone's definition of healer or support also depends on their "gaming background".
    If you previously played healer in WoW then you expect them to be HP batteries that make the green bar go up constantly.
    Try telling someone who played a DnD Cleric that their only purpose is to make HP bars go up though and they'll laugh in your face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    Someone's definition of healer or support also depends on their "gaming background".
    If you previously played healer in WoW then you expect them to be HP batteries that make the green bar go up constantly.
    Try telling someone who played a DnD Cleric that their only purpose is to make HP bars go up though and they'll laugh in your face.
    Very wrong about wow. Healers in wow now have a plethora of offensive options, and are expected to dps in any relevant content. If anything even in casual content you'll now get remarks for standing around doing nothing, which wasn't the case before. Dps is now widely acknowledge to be a good indicator of a healer's skill, despite the much higher need for heals than ffxiv will ever have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    Very wrong about wow. Healers in wow now have a plethora of offensive options, and are expected to dps in any relevant content. If anything even in casual content you'll now get remarks for standing around doing nothing, which wasn't the case before. Dps is now widely acknowledge to be a good indicator of a healer's skill, despite the much higher need for heals than ffxiv will ever have.
    Yeah, I probably should've specified "anyone who played healer in WoW from 2004-2010". Even back in Cataclysm I would fill any downtime on resto shaman with Lava Burst and especially Lightning Bolt since it helped with mana regen, but it wasn't exactly common.
    And even when the game basically had you healbotting for the entire fight you still had a myriad of damage spells.
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