Genderlocked gear. Again.

[Heavenchild]

Honestly...SE somehow makes people feel 'forced' to play female characters, just because their glamour (and hair options) are almost always better.
I met several people who play female chars just for this reason. Because of huge frustration about the differences in quality between the gender models,
and not because they prefered to play female in general.

I mean..., I really don't get why for example the new Reaper glam has less difference in shapes.
Why the males don't get these little decorative holes in the trousers? That makes no sense. And it feels always like a slap in the face.
If you play male and Viera, you have maximal disadvantage for glamour. ^^"

[Evergrey]

If you play male and Viera, you have maximal disadvantage for glamour. ^^"

I'd say that Male Hrothgars are the ones who have the maximum disadvantage.
not only do they share the same problem with hats as Viera, but they also have the bent over pose which makes a lot of gear look weird.
Not to mention the tail that clips through capes and stuff.

[Heavenchild]

I'd say that Male Hrothgars are the ones who have the maximum disadvantage.
not only do they share the same problem with hats as Viera, but they also have the bent over pose which makes a lot of gear look weird.
Not to mention the tail that clips through capes and stuff.

I said Viera because there are headpieces that Hrothgars can wear that Viera are not able to wear.
For expample the archfiend helm (pvp reward), all the tarnished face masks from the garo sets, or even the elemental helmets from the relic armour sets from Stormblood.
I realized this when I played Viera and felt excluded when people wore full Garo sets. :')

Tail clipping is a problem in general. Same with bad poses. Male Miqote also have a really strange pose, that is unusable.
I switched to Hyr to get rid of some problems. But of course they have other ones. At least, after the 7.0 update my face texture won't be such a mess anymore.

[Evergrey]

I said Viera because there are headpieces that Hrothgars can wear that Viera are not able to wear.
For expample the archfiend helm (pvp reward), all the tarnished face masks from the garo sets, or even the elemental helmets from the relic armour sets from Stormblood.
I realized this when I played Viera and felt excluded when people wore full Garo sets. :')

Tail clipping is a problem in general. Same with bad poses. Male Miqote also have a really strange pose, that is unusable.
I switched to Hyr to get rid of some problems. But of course they have other ones. But at least, after the 7.0 update my face texture won't be such a mess anymore.

Have you seen some of the helmets that Hrothgars can wear?
it deforms the shape of the head so if there wasn't a tail sticking out at the back, one could've thought it was a Roe with a bad back.
Just because Hrothgars can wear some headpieces Viera can't, doesn't mean it's always a good thing.

[Heavenchild]

For me personally it is more worse not to be able to use something in general.

[Evergrey]

For me personally it is more worse not to be able to use something in general.

I wonder if the general public would have the same point of view if the tradeoff was for the Vieras ears being removed when wearing certain headpieces.
Like how Hrothgars head shapes can be replaced with standard hyur ones.

Better to be able to wear than not like you said.

[Iscah]

I said Viera because there are headpieces that Hrothgars can wear that Viera are not able to wear.

I don't see the point in counting glamours up just by exact numbers, "he can wear 21 things and I can only wear 20", when ultimately it comes down to how many pieces look good on the character – and I feel like Viera are at an advantage, not disadvantage, on that front.

[Heavenchild]

I wonder if the general public would have the same point of view if the tradeoff was for the Vieras ears being removed when wearing certain headpieces.
Like how Hrothgars head shapes can be replaced with standard hyur ones.

Better to be able to wear than not like you said.

Yes, I would prefer to remove the ears for the ability to wear stuff.
I was always fine with miqo ears cut off, in exchange to be able to wear certain headpieces.

But common...
I really don't like it how people in this forums are not able to stay with the topic.
It's about gendered gear. Not about personal preference for race restrictions.

I just made a side comment about male Viera can wear the smallest number of pieces.
But I don't know why we are talking about this, when the theme of this thread is different quality for gender models.

Such useless discussions are one reason why actual feedback stays unseen. Who want's to fight through pages full of offtopic discussion?
I read not much here in this forum because most threads are full of offtopic stuff. x3

[GTK0HLK]

Yes, I would prefer to remove the ears for the ability to wear stuff.
I was always fine with miqo ears cut off, in exchange to be able to wear certain headpieces.

But common...
I really don't like it how people in this forums are not able to stay with the topic.
It's about gendered gear. Not about personal prefernce for race restrictions.

I just made a side comment about male Viera can wear the smallest number of pieces.
But I don't know why we are talking about this, when the theme of this thread is different quality for gender models.

Such useless discussions are one reason why actual feedback stays unseen. Who want's to fight through pages full of offtopic discussion?
I read not much here in this forum because most threads are full of offtopic stuff. x3

I didn't say anything earlier, but in the end you both kept it going.

Which, at least you both got a understanding or viewpoint for yourselves.

Some adjacency is fine(from my POV) if it fits the topic. (Like GenderLock <-> Role/Job Unlock adjacency)

Just like Racial traits and Race being adjacent to HigherVfx transformations removing racial traits, rather than morphing your racial traits.(Just like Zenos limbs did at the end)

But at least we on rails again.

[Sated]

I really hope they let us choose between the Picto tops.
This is not the Pictomancer I was excited for and I can't overstate how disappointed I was with the reveal.

This is particularly bad practice for situations where there is no alternative glamour to achieve the intended look (specifically things like artifact armor)
Because the FF art team does this so often, there are no shorts for male characters to make the SCH armor match the F version - we cannot even glamour it ourselves to fix it, because there ARE NO alternatives. Everything is slacks or too-long shorts that will tuck into the SCH's very high bootpants.

Artifact armor in general is supposed to have an iconic look and vibe, and for SCH and PCT that vibe was gutted for male characters. It feels very hollow, but more importantly for Picto:

It does not look like finished work.
This is a new job and its artifact armor looks like a sloppy, hasty edit.
In fairness to the team, I think it probably was a hasty edit because so many were busy with the benchmark rush.
But in this case why was it even changed? Why take the extra time to make it look worse on purpose?

I was expecting to be disappointed by an edit like this, but we were deprived of even the bare minimum:



Please at least respect the job's aesthetic when making such unnecessary changes...