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    Sage: Media Tour Feedback

    SE please review the potencies of Toxicon and Pneuma
    With the new trait buffing Dosis 3 to 360 potency, that puts Toxicon and Pneuma at small DPS loss
    IMO, it would best to ensure all 3 of them remain the same potency to ensure that min/max gameplay doesn't create unnecessary stress
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    sage mains really will just freak out at the first sign of opportunity cost huh
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    I gave AST a shot, and it's still miserable to play, even to think about. Worst iteration by far. Praying for 8.0, I guess...

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    Both dots stack, this with Kardia means more pew pew for us. SAGE is winning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kissune View Post
    sage mains really will just freak out at the first sign of opportunity cost huh
    I mean if they were free in the previous expansion why not in the following? It's pretty obvious that is a SE oversight and in the case of toxikon the least thing that mechanic needs is less incentives to use it
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

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    I think the cooldown of Philosophia should be reduced, because frankly the cooldown is too long to make Kardia worthwhile even if you buff Soteria alone. There isn't enough interplay into Kardia actions and ways to increase the healing spike when doing damage. Assuming the damage profile is still based largely on damage spikes like the last couple of expansions.

    Toxicon needs to both have a potency buff and change the way it's being generated because it's becoming super underutilized in the current state to have any meaningful impact.
    Pneuma should really change in design - increase the DPS potency and make it into 2-part follow-up skill to utilize the healing aspect of the skill. Like how WHM's Temperance have Divine Caress and AST has the inverse Divination + Oracle. A 2-part follow up.

    I like the DoT stacking on Eukrasian Dykrasia. I'm happy with the Psyche skill - impactful although a bit boring for just a regular oGCD that doesn't affect Kardia. I'll have to play Dawntrail to tell, but it feels like SGE might struggle to keep up with the other healers in terms of parity since this design hinges heavily on SGE being able to get the full value of Philosophia for their lv 100 skill (though I'm most likely overthinking it). Does anyone know if kardia is affected by healing magic potency? I can't tell because Kardia is applied by an ability rather than by a spell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kissune View Post
    sage mains really will just freak out at the first sign of opportunity cost huh
    Do I smell sage main jealousy?
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    Why is Sage somehow exempt from this 2-minute DoT or Burst nonsense? Every other healer gets some flashy burst option that is locked behind a 2 minute CD... and Sage gets a 60 second Burst AoE and 2 DoTs in their standard DPS rotation. That's something the SCH community has been begging for since it was removed in SHB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaxSw View Post
    I mean if they were free in the previous expansion why not in the following? It's pretty obvious that is a SE oversight and in the case of toxikon the least thing that mechanic needs is less incentives to use it
    Internet never forget their oopsies lol

    As an example from the past...

    Pay 200 extra MP for diff VFX :3c
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    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

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    Quote Originally Posted by IllyaPrisma View Post
    Why is Sage somehow exempt from this 2-minute DoT or Burst nonsense? Every other healer gets some flashy burst option that is locked behind a 2 minute CD... and Sage gets a 60 second Burst AoE and 2 DoTs in their standard DPS rotation. That's something the SCH community has been begging for since it was removed in SHB.
    Healer 2min CD should be brought down to 1min cd like tanks. Screw the 2min meta for healers, let us have our big thing like tanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kissune View Post
    sage mains really will just freak out at the first sign of opportunity cost huh
    Yes sage mains like to do things other 1-1-1 you know, like what's been heavily criticized for years... Also opportunity cost my a**, toxikon requires stacks, and pneuma is a gcd. It's ruin 2 which is the odd one instead.
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