Square obviously not listening to feedback

[Valence]

And even then, does it mean that the minorities should just stay quiet and eat the crow? Not giving a single care to any negative feedback doesn't sound like the smartest thing to do on the long run to me

[Sjol]

And even then, does it mean that the minorities should just stay quiet and eat the crow? Not giving a single care to any negative feedback doesn't sound like the smartest thing to do on the long run to me

They likely have many avenues where feedback comes in:

* internal testers
* other designers
* streamers
* random surveys
* forums
* reddit
* google trends
* NPS surveys

It's a bit of distance from saying, "hey, they might not have chosen your feedback over other feedback" to "SE doesn't listen to me and is forcing me to eat crow." There's a difference between not listening to your feedback and not acting on your feedback the way you want.

There are so many factors that go into how a large organization operates. Feedback is useful, but expecting any one particular idea to be acted upon is unrealistic.

[Valence]

They likely have many avenues where feedback comes in:

* internal testers
* other designers
* streamers
* random surveys
* forums
* reddit
* google trends
* NPS surveys

It's a bit of distance from saying, "hey, they might not have chosen your feedback over other feedback" to "SE doesn't listen to me and is forcing me to eat crow." There's a difference between not listening to your feedback and not acting on your feedback the way you want.

There are so many factors that go into how a large organization operates. Feedback is useful, but expecting any one particular idea to be acted upon is unrealistic.

I don't understand why you're replying to me since I do mostly agree with this. I specifically replied to people trying to shut us down with "the majority has spoken" arguments.

And the main problem with said majority is that said majority isn't open to any compromise, and is already getting 100% of the cake and changes specifically tailored for them. That our feedback is ignored By SE has been pretty obvious for a while now even though they ask us to continue sharing it. Well, I'm not very smort I guess, and I'll continue doing what I'm told to do.

And yes, I do think SE hasn't been very respectful toward its veterans, and I do feel salty about it. I do hope this isn't too much of a hard concept to grasp even for the privileged out there.

[Sjol]

I don't understand why you're replying to me since I do mostly agree with this. I specifically replied to people trying to shut us down with "the majority has spoken" arguments.

And the main problem with said majority is that said majority isn't open to any compromise, and is already getting 100% of the cake and changes specifically tailored for them. That our feedback is ignored By SE has been pretty obvious for a while now even though they ask us to continue sharing it. Well, I'm not very smort I guess, and I'll continue doing what I'm told to do.

And yes, I do think SE hasn't been very respectful toward its veterans, and I do feel salty about it. I do hope this isn't too much of a hard concept to grasp even for the privileged out there.

You're right. This should have been more clearly directed at some of the other people speaking. Though, in general, what I'm trying to say is there's a difference between ignored and not acted upon, at least to me.