The problem with Tripling Down on Shadowbringers Job Design

[rawker]

How so? Ten characters.

Before you are able to summon the turret or queen, you have to do something, unlike EW SMN, you Oprah the primals.

What's even funnier is that summoning does not have any cost, whatsoever. You are calling primals as if you are tagging in a mahvel game.

[Rekh]

Before you are able to summon the turret or queen, you have to do something, unlike EW SMN, you Oprah the primals.

What's even funnier is that summoning does not have any cost, whatsoever. You are calling primals as if you are tagging in a mahvel game.

Well said well said. Just wanted to see if you were going to argue that having the queen auto attack for 1 minute was better tham temporary 1 time use summons.

But the angle you took with it is what I've said in the past as well; smn should've been building towards a grand summoning; and depending on the situatin you're in you summon garuda for dots, titan for aoe, and ifrit for slow but big damage. In this situation you would actually have to make decisions on the spot.

Just remove ifrit, titan, and garuda from the rotation and make them actual job gauge decision-based mechanics. When we asked to be able to summon primals like in past FFs we didn't ask to see them summoned 50 times in an alliance raid run.

On this point, use carbuncle colors to designate which primal-based spell you will cast on your enemy(s), so you would have to summon sapphire carbuncle to cast sapphire-catastrophe, which would be a water attack.

Now, I will not say I dislike current summoner, but it could've been so much better mechanically.