Thank you for the Astro changes coming in dawntrail!

[Kissune]

I'm waiting till I see the full kit from the media tour before I make a full judgement on the card system. If it's not fun enough I will voice my dissatisfaction if needed. But for now, I'm not really interested in debating walls of text when we don't have all of the info on DT AST's kit.

"Wait until the job action trailer." "Wait until the LL." "Wait until the media tour." "Wait until live." "Wait until the first tier." "Wait until the ulti."

The EW experience, take two. But I'm sure things will be different, this time!

[Zaytex]

"Wait until the job action trailer." "Wait until the LL." "Wait until the media tour." "Wait until live." "Wait until the first tier." "Wait until the ulti."

The EW experience, take two. But I'm sure things will be different, this time!

''Wait till 8.0'' when you ask why AST's difficulty and skill expressive gameplay was removed as we all inevitably play it in the beginning of DT.

Just wait dude, things will get better I promise! Not like we have 4 expansions to go off of and the design of healers being chipped away at over and over and over and over and over.

None of us need to play AST in DT to know its a complete downgrade in complexity, nuance, APM or skill expressive gameplay. People thinking a single target mitigation/heal card is going to be any more interesting than another stack of ED or Exaltation (if they did add it) have no idea what they're talking about

[LynxDubh]

"Wait until the job action trailer." "Wait until the LL." "Wait until the media tour." "Wait until live." "Wait until the first tier." "Wait until the ulti."

The EW experience, take two. But I'm sure things will be different, this time!

Awright mate. Does your crystal ball tell you what all the cards and abilities do too? Such a doomsayer, you'd think that you ran a Y2K blog or something, geez.

And you're saying this is like the EW experience all over? You're the one aggressively championing for EW AST in this very thread.

[Kissune]

Awright mate. Does your crystal ball tell you what all the cards and abilities do too? Such a doomsayer, you'd think that you ran a Y2K blog or something, geez.

And you're saying this is like the EW experience all over? You're the one aggressively championing for EW AST in this very thread.

Doesn't matter what they do if the only thing you can do with them is play them at the same spots every time. They're either boring AF effects or super interesting ones, and either way I'm going to ask 'why are these on cards, and why did we lose an interesting mechanic in exchange for a bunch of utility we don't need?' I don't need exact tooltips to be able to say 'I think having a bunch of static tools are really boring'. Lustrate and excog are both healing tools on the same gauge, one is more interesting than the other. I still think aetherflow is boring. Is that something I need a media tour to tell me?

Also, you seem to be under the mistaken impression that A. I think EW AST is better than ShB or StB (I don't) B. I think EW AST is pure perfection with no room to grow(It isn't) and C. I am not capable of believing more than one thing (ie: EW AST had nuance, skill expression, and an enjoyable playstyle while also being somewhat samey, little more than a distraction in lower-end content, and optimization that takes logging to really see the effects of instead of being represented in game) (I am)

[LynxDubh]

Doesn't matter what they do if the only thing you can do with them is play them at the same spots every time. They're either boring AF effects or super interesting ones, and either way I'm going to ask 'why are these on cards, and why did we lose an interesting mechanic in exchange for a bunch of utility we don't need?' I don't need exact tooltips to be able to say 'I think having a bunch of static tools are really boring'. Lustrate and excog are both healing tools on the same gauge, one is more interesting than the other. I still think aetherflow is boring. Is that something I need a media tour to tell me?

Also, you seem to be under the mistaken impression that A. I think EW AST is better than ShB or StB (I don't) B. I think EW AST is pure perfection with no room to grow(It isn't) and C. I am not capable of believing more than one thing (ie: EW AST had nuance, skill expression, and an enjoyable playstyle while also being somewhat samey, little more than a distraction in lower-end content, and optimization that takes logging to really see the effects of instead of being represented in game) (I am)

Kinda annoying to sift through your opinions when you throw walls of text at people. Add some tldr's to your posts man. It'll give you time to reflect on the fact that you're either raging or trolling on an online forum about a video game.

[Kissune]

Kinda annoying to sift through your opinions when you throw walls of text at people. Add some tldr's to your posts man. It'll give you time to reflect on the fact that you're either raging or trolling on an online forum about a video game.

Then don't interact lmao? I'm not holding a gun to your head and forcing you to interact with my posts. I have a lot to say, my bad I guess for not just rolling over and accepting whatever slop SE gives us and whatever weird delusions the fanboys invent to justify the job getting a lobotomy.

But yeah, sorry a wall of text scares you. Knowing that reading is too hard for you puts a lot of your opinions on simplification into perspective.

Edit: Oh right, just for you. Tl;dr - I think you and the other person are incredibly confusing bc I don't understand how anyone can look at DT "cards" and think 'yaaaayy stormblood' unless they think stormblood cards were just about their effects and nothing more. The delusion comes in when you think anything is gonna change between now, the tour, live, and the real fights. Unless JP is up in arms about the changes, idk I'm not JP, nothing is gonna change.

[LynxDubh]

Then don't interact lmao? I'm not holding a gun to your head and forcing you to interact with my posts. I have a lot to say, my bad I guess for not just rolling over and accepting whatever slop SE gives us and whatever weird delusions the fanboys invent to justify the job getting a lobotomy.

But yeah, sorry a wall of text scares you. Knowing that reading is too hard for you puts a lot of your opinions on simplification into perspective.

Edit: Oh right, just for you. Tl;dr - I think you and the other person are incredibly confusing bc I don't understand how anyone can look at DT "cards" and think 'yaaaayy stormblood' unless they think stormblood cards were just about their effects and nothing more. The delusion comes in when you think anything is gonna change between now, the tour, live, and the real fights. Unless JP is up in arms about the changes, idk I'm not JP, nothing is gonna change.

You're the one who replied to my narnia meme first. Take your own advice.

[Kissune]

You're the one who replied to my narnia meme first. Take your own advice.

I replied to you, yes. Of my own volition. Bc I don't have this weird aversion to reading and interacting with people I disagree with, unlike yourself. Are you implying that if someone replies to your post you have to respond? Or are you just that obsessed with me that you gotta offer a quip every time I say something? Bc so far your replies to me have had no substance beyond 'I don't want to read that'

[ThorneDynasty]

"Wait until the job action trailer." "Wait until the LL." "Wait until the media tour." "Wait until live." "Wait until the first tier." "Wait until the ulti."

The EW experience, take two. But I'm sure things will be different, this time!

This. So much this. The "just wait and see" people are so much worse than any open fanboy. It's so tiring and weaselly.