Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate"

[Rozeee]

We don't get an animation upgrade to our basic attacks this time. Our DoT has the same potency since ShB and our Damage Spell does not (presumeably) get an upgraded potency. Is that why we get some form of 2min attack? The 5 potency upgrade we would have gotten with Glare 6, Broil 7, Astral Solar Malefic and Dosis IV gets to be "contained" into our new shiny 2minute Cds?

A more cynical interpretation of this is that this is done to reduce the damage variance of healers. Guess what job has the most damage variance between the average and the high-end. It's not BLM, or SAM, or any DPS jobs. It's every healer. Packing a shiny damage button into the 2-min window just makes sure you have a baseline expectation of damage you can tune for. Expect the new DPS button to be a silly 800 potency attack.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I just don't get what's so hard for them to understand that people don't like having to press 1 2 1 1 1 1 ad nauseam on any healers they pick when there's nothing to do.

As a side note, having just finished leveling all trust NPCs to lv90 couple of days ago, I begin to think they really believe how a player should heal is how they craft their healer trust AIs. (godplsno)

[MufetMissulena]

Considering how hostle Yoshi-P’s response was snd the utter lack of respect the FFXIV team have for Playstation players, (forcing them to redo content to unlock trophies if achieved on a different system), then it seems that it’s just time to unsub and jump ship. Devs obviously don’t care at this point.

[Deceptus]

White Mage getting 3 instances of this new attack where Scholar only gets 1 is depressing. Who hates Scholar so much that they feel the need to shove them into an ugly robe and humiliate them?

If you've been paying attention they've been taking all the old SCH stuff that they've removed over the years, repackaging it, and putting it on Sage

[ForsakenRoe]

With the revelation of SE's plans for Healers come 7.0, I've taken to rewriting and reformatting some old ideas of mine, which I'll be posting in the Healer section... tomorrow probably. The reason for making said designs is partly for fun, but mainly to show that it's very possible to create an engaging Healer kit, that remains true to the Lore and Identity of the class, all while keeping the Job accessible to the less skilled/more laid back/casual/whatever term you want to use, player. That means things like 'having RNG on the Tarot inspired healer', which SE seems to want to move away from for some reason, and 'Having the healer who has a fairy, get fairy wings for their super-mode' instead of those tacky angel wings and that hideous white robe SE showed for SCH.

It's kind of surprising to me that I'm able to see a way to make a lore compliant, low skill floor high skill ceiling, design for the healers, but SE either can't, or refuses to due to it 'not matching their vision for the role'. But at this point, I can't even tell what their vision for the role even IS, outside of 'it is functional enough that it can fill the healer slot in a party, so that the DPS and Tank players can do the content'

[ty_taurus]

But at this point, I can't even tell what their vision for the role even IS, outside of 'it is functional enough that it can fill the healer slot in a party, so that the DPS and Tank players can do the content'

My thoughts when I see them add even more healing actions to the inflated healing library each healer has, then turns around and goes "It's difficult because if we add more damage, it'll become harder for healers to clear content."

[currentlemon]

What I'm hoping for also in DT is that these new DPS actions (and healing abilities too) aren't locked to later levels. Every expansion, it seems that the later levels are primarily put into focus. This causes a problem where the Job is only fun to play at a certain level range. And this isn't just true for healers, but for all Jobs. WHM for example, I do hope we get some sort of weaker version of the new DPS / Healing actions at the lower levels. Reuse assets and bring in old, existing abilities like Water III, Water IV, and Banish (from Bozja) and put them in place of the new DPS action at lower levels of the game. Bring back old actions like Divine Seal and just upgrade it to Temperance at level 80.

[Allegor]

My thoughts when I see them add even more healing actions to the inflated healing library each healer has, then turns around and goes "It's difficult because if we add more damage, it'll become harder for healers to clear content."

Me looking at my hotbars being filled with so much healing I don't even know where to put them

[ty_taurus]

Me looking at my hotbars being filled with so much healing I don't even know where to put them

[ty_taurus]

What I'm hoping for also in DT is that these new DPS actions (and healing abilities too) aren't locked to later levels. Every expansion, it seems that the later levels are primarily put into focus. This causes a problem where the Job is only fun to play at a certain level range. And this isn't just true for healers, but for all Jobs. WHM for example, I do hope we get some sort of weaker version of the new DPS / Healing actions at the lower levels. Reuse assets and bring in old, existing abilities like Water III, Water IV, and Banish (from Bozja) and put them in place of the new DPS action at lower levels of the game. Bring back old actions like Divine Seal and just upgrade it to Temperance at level 80.

What if we did this for White Mage:

Aero III is obtained at level 54. Similar to Thundercloud, each tick of Aero II has a chance of proc'ing single cast of Aero III: a small, instant cast nuke. Presence of Mind grants 3 stacks of a buff that can be consumed by any attacking spell. After a stack is consumed, grants 1 use of Aero III. Aero III is upgraded to [Insert Name Here] at level 92. Thoughts?