VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[kyyninen_kirahvi]

It took them this long to get femHroth out. They could have reworked how the hroths work at the same time. Instead, they repeat the mistakes with femhroths. I just can't really understand why when it would've been just easier to fix the whole thing at once.

If they are ever going to fix the hat situation, they are just expanding their backlog

[Boblawblah]

That's kind of my point, though. For all the reasons you just listed, you would think they should do it and save themselves a lot of long-term grief, so why aren't they doing it?

That IS the question isn't it. I do have to wonder at this point if it's a "it goes against our design idea" or heck, something as silly as Yoshi or someone not liking to see ears poking out of hats or something equally mundane. The fact that they won't even really acknowledge it is telling though, and makes me think it's a reason most players would laugh at. It's definitely not a technological limitation.

[DrForester]

That's kind of my point, though. For all the reasons you just listed, you would think they should do it and save themselves a lot of long-term grief, so why aren't they doing it?

They don't want to just admit it's never going to happen, which I honestly think would be preferable to leading the fans on every few years with vague "please be patient" comments.

Just rip that bandaid off, Yoshida.

[1313]

Male Viera shouldn't have ever been added to ffxiv, please remove them.

[Boblawblah]

Male Viera shouldn't have ever been added to ffxiv, please remove them.

I see you're becoming a bit more obvious now

[SeverianLyonesse]

Male Viera shouldn't have ever been added to ffxiv, please remove them.

I could support the argument either way if you include Female Hroth. I was totally fine with having two genderlocked races (although imo Hroth should still have just been called Ronso for as much as they changed conceptually).

I guess I don't care that much that they exist now, but given boybuns' posture, the long delay for lionmoms, and the continued lack of hat reform, I definitely think there there is a case of "was this all worth it?" where both races are not played much. As far as my personal preferences go, I absolutely would trade both for working hats.

[Minali]

I could support the argument either way if you include Female Hroth. I was totally fine with having two genderlocked races (although imo Hroth should still have just been called Ronso for as much as they changed conceptually).

I guess I don't care that much that they exist now, but given boybuns' posture, the long delay for lionmoms, and the continued lack of hat reform, I definitely think there there is a case of "was this all worth it?" where both races are not played much. As far as my personal preferences go, I absolutely would trade both for working hats.

Bold of you to assume they would have given us hats without bunboys and lionmoms, they had plenty of time to do so. At least I am fairly sure they didn't start working on these two character options right after Shadowbringers release and were busy with them full time. Every new armor they developed for the game was a chance to do better as well and they didn't do that either. Instead we got an impressive number of gearsets with circlets this expansion.
No need to call more options for people to play a mistake or failure or worthless because you would have preferred dev time to go elsewhere. Chances are slim this dev time would have been used for hats, going by history.

Personally I stick with both.gif and I won't stop demanding headgear until my Viera can wear this Yafaemi Hat of Healing (and many others). We deserve to be as fabulous like the other Warriors of Light!

[LuciaMirain]

I really wish they would just hide the ears for all large hats and let ears clip through for all thurbans and caps. I would be happy with that tbh.

[Allegor]

Bold of you to assume they would have given us hats without bunboys and lionmoms, they had plenty of time to do so. At least I am fairly sure they didn't start working on these two character options right after Shadowbringers release and were busy with them full time.

I'm 100% convinced neither were supposed to get their other gender, heck, they weren't even supposed to get hairstyles if not for the overwhelmingly negative feedback and pr disaster it caused. SE, for whatever reason we may never find out about, tried to severely cut corners with these 2 races, and it backfired gloriously.

Point is, if being a Karen is the only way to be heard, then so be it. At the very least store and AF hats should always work.

[Rekh]

I really wish they would just hide the ears for all large hats and let ears clip through for all thurbans and caps. I would be happy with that tbh.

It's not even about finding 1 solution; they could solve the hat issue by making it an in-game client-side option where we can toggle to let ears clip, hide, or show no hats for viera/hrothgar. Unfortunately it seems square enix prefers "everyone gets the decision we made for you" when it comes to their mmos. You know, a live service game with different communities, cultures, and preferences.