Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate"

[Aravell]

The eternal problem

If we stay they call the numbers healthy and change nothing

If we leave they think we are leaving because healer is too hard and make it easier

I don't think this is the case.

The sad truth is that even if everyone that's unhappy with healers leaves the role entirely, all it will do is reduce the reliable healers in extreme+ content, but it won't even put a dent into the amount of satisfied curebots queueing for dungeons.

[ty_taurus]

I'd add another point:
Make the job actually interact with Kardia instead of leaving it as glorified Embrace spam. You have a perfectly functional mechanic to build around.

You're right, I totally forgot to add that as well as another point.

5. Redirect the focus of Sage's healing away from Addersgall and into Kardia, or make Addersgall a resource generated form DPS instead of automatically over time.
6. Add more emphasis on Sage healing through barriers and less emphasis on healing through regens.

[ty_taurus]

The eternal problem

If we stay they call the numbers healthy and change nothing

If we leave they think we are leaving because healer is too hard and make it easier

I honestly am curious what would happen if enough people stopped playing healing completely and swapped to DPS, while regularly flooding the queues with DPS and refusing to budge until healing received proper adjustments, and no amount of simplifying or making the role easier made any impact on the massive drought.

[rawker]

I honestly am curious what would happen if enough people stopped playing healing completely and swapped to DPS, while regularly flooding the queues with DPS and refusing to budge until healing received proper adjustments, and no amount of simplifying or making the role easier made any impact on the massive drought.

I'm afraid they'd simplify healing further to draw in more casuals into braindead-er healers.

[Rehayem]

I'm afraid they'd simplify healing further to draw in more casuals into braindead-er healers.

And then people have a shocked pikachu face when there's a shortage of healers. Wasn't that the case already during Abyssos?

[rawker]

And then people have a shocked pikachu face when there's a shortage of healers. Wasn't that the case already during Abyssos?

The cycle continues.

[ty_taurus]

I'm afraid they'd simplify healing further to draw in more casuals into braindead-er healers.

But I'm saying that no amount of simplifying draws in enough people in that hypothetical. The state of DF gets critical due to lack of healer participation because almost no one is willing to put up with the boring gameplay.

[rawker]

But I'm saying that no amount of simplifying draws in enough people in that hypothetical. The state of DF gets critical due to lack of healer participation because almost no one is willing to put up with the boring gameplay.

To be honest, I am starting to lose faith that the healers will get any better. Not sure how they came up to the conclusion that simpler + flashier = better.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

To be honest, I am starting to lose faith that the healers will get any better. Not sure how they came up to the conclusion that simpler + flashier = better.

They learned that from EW SMN apparently: "I feel like I"m -really- summoning things now!"---summon what? That's literally just some flashy VFX attached on an instant GCD.

I have died inside once for calling out that benchmark GCD heal as Medica III giving off the same PTSD as EW Holy III for having lily insignia attached on it while having absolutely no relation to their actual lily gauge. I think I will die again inside couple more times when we finally learn anything at all by 16th May lmao.

[HappyHubris]

I honestly am curious what would happen if enough people stopped playing healing completely and swapped to DPS, while regularly flooding the queues with DPS and refusing to budge until healing received proper adjustments, and no amount of simplifying or making the role easier made any impact on the massive drought.

Every tank becomes WAR and can heal themselves through 4-man content without an awake healer.