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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyHubris View Post
    I'm dropping healing for 7.0 after telling myself to hold out for "one more expansion."

    And YoshiP will probably see my shift in the population and think that it's a sign that healing is too hard and pushing players away.

    There is no winning.
    The eternal problem

    If we stay they call the numbers healthy and change nothing

    If we leave they think we are leaving because healer is too hard and make it easier
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    The eternal problem

    If we stay they call the numbers healthy and change nothing

    If we leave they think we are leaving because healer is too hard and make it easier
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    Noah Orih
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    The eternal problem

    If we stay they call the numbers healthy and change nothing

    If we leave they think we are leaving because healer is too hard and make it easier
    I honestly am curious what would happen if enough people stopped playing healing completely and swapped to DPS, while regularly flooding the queues with DPS and refusing to budge until healing received proper adjustments, and no amount of simplifying or making the role easier made any impact on the massive drought.
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    Sage has failed to live up to the fantasy of a sci-fi DPS healer. Please change this for 8.0. Make Sage fast, exciting, and aggressive. It should feel like a healer that plays like a DPS. Empower the aspects of Sage's unique healing mechanics: Kardia and Eukrasia to give its healing playstyle more identity.

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    Rawker Stone
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    I honestly am curious what would happen if enough people stopped playing healing completely and swapped to DPS, while regularly flooding the queues with DPS and refusing to budge until healing received proper adjustments, and no amount of simplifying or making the role easier made any impact on the massive drought.
    I'm afraid they'd simplify healing further to draw in more casuals into braindead-er healers.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE


    - Seraphism is BAD.
    - Give us back Shadowflare and make Deployment/Emergency Tactics affect Biolysis
    - Give us back Rouse
    - Make pet management rewarding.

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    Yasu Naoya
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    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    I'm afraid they'd simplify healing further to draw in more casuals into braindead-er healers.
    And then people have a shocked pikachu face when there's a shortage of healers. Wasn't that the case already during Abyssos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    And then people have a shocked pikachu face when there's a shortage of healers. Wasn't that the case already during Abyssos?
    The cycle continues.
    (2)

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE


    - Seraphism is BAD.
    - Give us back Shadowflare and make Deployment/Emergency Tactics affect Biolysis
    - Give us back Rouse
    - Make pet management rewarding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    I'm afraid they'd simplify healing further to draw in more casuals into braindead-er healers.
    But I'm saying that no amount of simplifying draws in enough people in that hypothetical. The state of DF gets critical due to lack of healer participation because almost no one is willing to put up with the boring gameplay.
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    Sage has failed to live up to the fantasy of a sci-fi DPS healer. Please change this for 8.0. Make Sage fast, exciting, and aggressive. It should feel like a healer that plays like a DPS. Empower the aspects of Sage's unique healing mechanics: Kardia and Eukrasia to give its healing playstyle more identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    But I'm saying that no amount of simplifying draws in enough people in that hypothetical. The state of DF gets critical due to lack of healer participation because almost no one is willing to put up with the boring gameplay.
    To be honest, I am starting to lose faith that the healers will get any better. Not sure how they came up to the conclusion that simpler + flashier = better.
    (1)

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE


    - Seraphism is BAD.
    - Give us back Shadowflare and make Deployment/Emergency Tactics affect Biolysis
    - Give us back Rouse
    - Make pet management rewarding.

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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    To be honest, I am starting to lose faith that the healers will get any better. Not sure how they came up to the conclusion that simpler + flashier = better.
    They learned that from EW SMN apparently: "I feel like I"m -really- summoning things now!"---summon what? That's literally just some flashy VFX attached on an instant GCD.

    I have died inside once for calling out that benchmark GCD heal as Medica III giving off the same PTSD as EW Holy III for having lily insignia attached on it while having absolutely no relation to their actual lily gauge. I think I will die again inside couple more times when we finally learn anything at all by 16th May lmao.
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    Lauren Zackson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    They learned that from EW SMN apparently: "I feel like I"m -really- summoning things now!"---summon what? That's literally just some flashy VFX attached on an instant GCD.
    Because previous iteration of summoner where you just spam ruin and press a button for your pet to swing a little harder once a minute felt extremely engaging and varied. Now it's also ruin spam, but at least there's some impact to the summon attacks and actual tangible feeling like summoning is happening and it's relevant to the job in some way.
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