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  1. #71
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xaphire View Post
    You're factually incorrect. You cannot participate in, or interact with FATE monsters if you cannot join the FATE. Joining the FATE requires you to sync down or be in the correct level range. You do not get any contribution if you aren't synced.
    This is the key part. BLU would be in the correct level range while others there had to sync down. It doesn't work with a max level BLU now but lower level BLU can and lower level BLU can still destroy the FATEs.
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  2. #72
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    Mika_Zahard's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Mika Zahard
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    This happened in previous events or patches involving FATE grinds, to a degree.
    They are affected. Their item level and level is reduced, which reduces the strength of their attacks. That may be moot when their 1-hit attacks become available, but that doesn't mean it's not affecting them.
    That's a good idea.
    The watch isnt even the problem LMAO. I dont need the watch to get legendary tokens. I can just get tomes by participating as other job, then go BLU and ham ham.
    (0)
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    Pressure SE into fixing their gifting system and RMT issues
    >Defend the company
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  3. #73
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    Sjol's Avatar
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    Character
    Sjol Fantl
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Feels like a classic tragedy of the commons. As someone mentioned it does become a PVP issue, ping issues and all. If everyone is doing it, everyone is progressing slower as it's entirely possible even other BLU mages aren't getting hits in.

    The problem is worsened by some jobs, like BLM, not even being able to finish their cast in the time the fight is over.

    While I could pull out my BLU, it feels like it would just make the problem worse and someone else out there who is just trying to enjoy themselves with the job they enjoy will get frustrated because it's just a bad experience.
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  4. #74
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    Myrany's Avatar
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    Character
    Myrany Wilzuun
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 87
    I had to go to materia on the deadest server I knew of in off hours to farm the 48 so I could get all the pets and even then I was trying to race Blues. It was infuriating. Thankfully I don't want the weapons or mounts (personally do not like them) so I am done with this nightmare.

    No I did not do it on this character which is an old main I mostly do not play anymore.
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  5. #75
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    PotatoTree's Avatar
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    Momoko Tomoko
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 100
    If they nerf blue again ya'll gonna regret it once Yokai is over and you need to solo fates for some old relic or whatever, lol.
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    The tiniest lala.

  6. #76
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    Arrius's Avatar
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Shame about it being the same problem again.

    Hopefully this simmers down over time and non-blue mages are able to get their tokens for the rewards.
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  7. #77
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    Noox-115's Avatar
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    Character
    Nox Bloodthorn
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    My only solution I found to solo fate and have a reward with always a gold medal despite the groups is to take Machinist and spam (and when I say spam i mean , Sprint on, full spread shot/scattergun) no stop that's literally the only way I managed to do anything by myself
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  8. #78
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    Rueby's Avatar
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    Character
    Vera Nova
    World
    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    It'll probably simmer down alot! I feel your frustration, but I don't really think BLU is griefing, BLU as a job kinda specializes in just that...fate farming!
    Yesterday (late evening on EU), I switched to a less populated server, there were alot of blues who were using Hydro Pull and not nuking bosses. I know as one, I give time for people to come, I only need to tag a few times, maybe less so in a party. You get participation for healing/enmity generation as well.

    I don't think BLU should be nerfed though, however I think fate bosses in HW? and beyond resist one shots and freeze, so there's some anti-blu nuking there.

    I remember when I was new I was really upset and that made me go level BLU and I found it really fun, it made the fate farm grind less...awful. Now, years after I've done 100+ fates for 30 Legendary medals....I think most of these would've felt way worse because I was alone (early morning hours)...

    I think it's just player behavior mixed with bad scaling! People feel the need to nuke to get participation, and when things are dying quickly, many get desperate to 'do more damage' to get credit...which I think makes it alot worse :/

    It'll calm down eventually though! I've seen fate trains on EU here, which is really nice, people following to one fate, and not blowing things up on arrival.
    (1)

  9. #79
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Character
    Mira Clearweaver
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Imagine being called griefing for taking advantage what the game has provided legitimately to speed up their own grinding process. Very #GCBTW.

    Maybe one day dev will 'fix' this. BLU already has so little contents where they can shine though.
    (7)

  10. #80
    Player
    Tint's Avatar
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    In the right-hand attic
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    Character
    Karuru Karu
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Imagine being called griefing for taking advantage what the game has provided legitimately to speed up their own grinding process. Very #GCBTW.
    It's not about taking advantage of what BLU has to offer, it's about denying other people to successfully participating in the games content. And then mocking the people who can't progress the event about it in the forums.

    Yes, a very great community >.>
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    It’s a good thing not to answer your enemies. I scarcely ever do. Perhaps Emily is more like me than I am like myself. Perhaps she would rather not answer her friends, even. She keeps it all in her heart.

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