Yo-Kai Event: BLU Major Griefing Problem

[Raikai]

Like stated in the title there is a problem with the Yo-Kai event where there is a problem with BLU griefing a major portion of the FATEs.

Unlike the rest of the classes, BLU is not effected by the level sync mechanic and have access to their entire spell list. Most of the ARR and SB areas can be one shot by a simple combo by BLU. This is causing FATEs that people can't even get contribution because the FATE is over in a matter of seconds. Tagging enemies is extremely hard as well, so camping the spawns for the enemies also doesn't work.

Now I have personally run into several respectful BLU who are simply pulling the enemies into a tight circle for everyone to fight, but it is way more common to run into groups of 6+ BLU who are just nuking FATEs where no one gets contribution unless you are in their party.

I understand this event is meant to get people out there doing more FATEs and they should be going fast, but not THAT fast. BLU is making these FATEs almost near impossible to participate in. I've also witnessed some insensitive conversations when people have politely asked if the BLU would stop 1 shotting boss/mobs. Some suggestions are just straight up ignorant of the issue at hand.
- A user should NOT have to world/DC travel just to be able to farm out FATEs. Travel also did not exist for the past Yo-Kai events.
- Telling people to just play BLU as well is... Infuriating.
- Telling people to just team up with a BLU is also not a solution.
- Telling people to just wait until the BLU get bored is ALSO not a solution.
Also running into a lot of insults and name calling from both sides has plagued /shout in many areas I've run into. Really not proving we're as cozy a community as we like to parade around.

BLU did not exist at the past Yo-Kai events and I believe this was a massive oversight in this release. The only reasonable and simple solution I can see is restricting that BLU cannot equip the watch.

Welcome to how Zadnor works with the extra overpowered actions. Sometimes is impossible to reach a skirmish (FATE) there in time becasue they are done with in a matter of seconds. And BLU isn't even allowed there.

As for the Yo-kai fate farming, the problem could be resolved if the completion requirements scaled with the number of people doing the FATE. What happens is that the spawn rate of mobs apparently is bigger with more people doing, but not the number of kills required to complete the objective. If you're soloing a spwan-based FATE as a BLU with just 1 or 2 people besides you, it takes quite a while to complete.

Boss FATEs are not an issue because they (usually) can't be targeted by the 1-shot actions.

[Rehayem]

Of course it is obstruction of play when people can't get credit for the Fates and the solution is: "Come back later"

Then it's not a player or skill issue, it's a game design issue crafted by SE.

[Saraide]

Of course it is obstruction of play when people can't get credit for the Fates and the solution is: "Come back later"

Does this mean you are reporting tons of blue mages right now?

[Tint]

Does this mean you are reporting tons of blue mages right now?

I would never do that.

I just wanted to show the person who came up the ToS that it pretty much swings in the opposite direction.

Everyone should respect everyone else. Stomping over the Fates with BLU is selfish behavior. And seeing people defending it here just shows what kind of person they are. I would be ashamed of myself.

[Menriq]

I'm not a software developer

As a software developer, I am thankful you are not.

[Ardeth]

As a software developer, I am thankful you are not.

That doesn't give any imput on what was wrong with my ideas. It just makes your imput meaningless. Try again.

[Menriq]

That doesn't give any imput on what was wrong with my ideas. It just makes your imput meaningless. Try again.

Certainly.

Minimum 1 minute immunity to FATEs. If you can't make it there in at least a minute, you miss out. And inside of that minute, I can hit the boss or mobs whatever and get credit as if I did.

1.) Say you hit the mob in that one minute, and then leave. The mob resets (because no one else as aggro'd it). Does your credit go away?
2.) What about escort fates?

That's just 2 questions, but no matter what, that is going be coding changes that impact all fates, and how credit is determined.

Multiple instances to break up the clumps of players. Easy solutions can be turned on and off during matineance as needed.

So if you pay attention, they don't blanket add instances. In your scenario, are they going to blanket add instances to every zone from ARR to SB? It's clear that spinning up instances isn't dynamic. They obviously have limitations as to how many total instances of things they can spin up, so there is no way they are going to just blanket add instances to every server they have. When they do add multiple instances, it's not server specific. This could very well be a lot of overhead (I don't know because I don't know their setup), but even in autoscaling, there are costs involved to spinning up instances for demand.

So, like I said, as a software developer, what you think is simple is never as simple as it seems. Would you tell a farmer "Just plant some seeds and water them. Stop being terrible. Stop being lazy" as to why crops don't always grow? If not, then perhaps you sit out on telling a software developer how to do their job.

[Mika_Zahard]

Man I don’t think greifing is the right word but I wish more people were showing at least a little courtesy. Every fate I went to for 2 hours was just a race to see who’s BLU would nuke everything fastest. I gave up after about 2 hours of only occasionally getting credit.

Like, people running BLU could give others even a minute and a half to arrive and get some hits in before war criming some level 8 monsters. The community manages to do that in Eureka, but not seeing that sense of community here.

Eureka is an entirely different thing dude. That fate will respawn later soon enough, you're not missing a promotion, sheesh.

Do you understand that the most farmed fates are the very low levels that you can complete in under a minute? Do you think blus can wait a minute or two when the ADD fates die in 50 seconds? LOLLLL

[Ardeth]

Certainly.


1.) Say you hit the mob in that one minute, and then leave. The mob resets (because no one else as aggro'd it). Does your credit go away?
2.) What about escort fates?

That's just 2 questions, but no matter what, that is going be coding changes that impact all fates, and how credit is determined.


So if you pay attention, they don't blanket add instances. In your scenario, are they going to blanket add instances to every zone from ARR to SB? It's clear that spinning up instances isn't dynamic. They obviously have limitations as to how many total instances of things they can spin up, so there is no way they are going to just blanket add instances to every server they have. When they do add multiple instances, it's not server specific. This could very well be a lot of overhead (I don't know because I don't know their setup), but even in autoscaling, there are costs involved to spinning up instances for demand.

So, like I said, as a software developer, what you think is simple is never as simple as it seems. Would you tell a farmer "Just plant some seeds and water them. Stop being terrible. Stop being lazy" as to why crops don't always grow? If not, then perhaps you sit out on telling a software developer how to do their job.

See, that's better than being passive-aggressive. I appreciate your imput.

[AluneTempest]

Same event, same complain all over again.

People will always use the most convenient way to farm the events, is SE fault for design an event that the only way to farm the stuff is open world FATE's.

You have 2 months to farm the event, in one week you will be able to farm your stuff without problem like the old event, thats what i will do even if i have BLU max lvl with all the spells.

btw you should try play BLU mage, is very fun and unique to play with the job