New healers skills

[Supersnow845]

I just find it more rewarding to have a system in place that lets me use all my abilities and rewards me for doing it effectively (like pretty much every job's rotation and resource managment) instead of having to actively choose not to use some abilities. We already have an opporunity cost with GCD healing and that's enough for me.

Isn’t that more what energy drain actually does over addersgall

You are rewarded for coordination and organisation of your heals with the option to contribute slightly more damage

Like sure addersgall doesn’t punish you for using a heal but there is also no reward because everything is free

[rawker]

I just find it more rewarding to have a system in place that lets me use all my abilities and rewards me for doing it effectively (like pretty much every job's rotation and resource managment) instead of having to actively choose not to use some abilities. We already have an opporunity cost with GCD healing and that's enough for me.

Not to be rude but SGE is just around that corner, should you have as little opportunity cost as possible. Me, personally, I like having to choose. I don't consider losing an offensive cast to heal to be detrimental.

[Moqi]

Isn’t that more what energy drain actually does over addersgall

You are rewarded for coordination and organisation of your heals with the option to contribute slightly more damage

It's a videogame and I want to use all my shiny new abilities. It just doesn't feel as fun when optimization requires not doing that. There's really nothing more to it (and Energy Drain's potency and animation isn't even that satisfying to use after sacrificing your other shinier spells).

Not to be rude but SGE is just around that corner, should you have as little opportunity cost as possible. Me, personally, I like having to choose. I don't consider losing an offensive cast to heal to be detrimental.

...good for you? Someone said they didn't understand why some people don't like SCH and I explained why I personally don't. I don't need you to tell me to play something else, I already do.

[Valence]

My question is then "Why do people expect everything to go smoothly for their perfect optimal run in a random pick up group?".

If someone is chasing a perfect optimal run, go find some like-minded people and go in together. Complaining that you have to use Soil/Indom instead of an ED in a random PF is your own fault.

What also baffles me is when someone says having to use Aetherflow to heal feels bad to them but also, at the same time, say that they don't care about parsing and logs. Why would someone feel bad about not getting 100 potency unless they're chasing a gold log?

100% agree

[hunter2]

It's a videogame and I want to use all my shiny new abilities. It just doesn't feel as fun when optimization requires not doing that. There's really nothing more to it (and Energy Drain's potency and animation isn't even that satisfying to use after sacrificing your other shinier spells).

I get it, and I like both playstyles. SGE tries to use everything in conjunction to maximise healing without losing uptime, and SCH carefully chooses the best tool or combination of tools for the profile of the incoming damage, being rewarded with a few extra Energy Drains if they succeed. I'd like to see the jobs evolve and separate keeping distinctions like that (and fairy/kardia etc) in mind rather than staying so similar in capabilities and gameplay.

[Ramiee]

Since its obvious dps wont change this expansion and pretty much everyone thinks every class will still be a burst class, im hoping for a much bigger overall damage increase necessitating GCD ideally in all content but hopefully at least in the Extremes, Savage and Criterion. I won't mind these general upgrades and buffs instead of fancy new moves if healing itself is made harder.

[Nizzi]

Since its obvious dps wont change this expansion and pretty much everyone thinks every class will still be a burst class, im hoping for a much bigger overall damage increase necessitating GCD ideally in all content but hopefully at least in the Extremes, Savage and Criterion. I won't mind these general upgrades and buffs instead of fancy new moves if healing itself is made harder.

we've been hoping for this for 5+ years now and we're still waiting for it to happen lol

[PercibelTheren]

^what about SCH needs a rework (I mean outside of redoing healing from scratch), ignore my main is honestly argue SCH is least in need of a rework

It’s the only healer that has a semi interesting healing kit left, it requires more than one brain cell in the “double weave 8 times in a row” way that square enix likes of push isn’t and it’s the only healer with functionally no redundant skills

Modern healer design is garbage but SCH is damn near flawless within this design philosophy

SCH is a clunky job whose kit gets in its own way half the time. It also seems to have a weird identity crisis between being, you know, a scholar, and the fairy.

[Supersnow845]

SCH is a clunky job whose kit gets in its own way half the time. It also seems to have a weird identity crisis between being, you know, a scholar, and the fairy.

That’s kinda the point on both fronts

The kit intentionally gets in its own way because it wants you to plan stuff out, not just vomit out 15 CD’s like SGE does

As for the design SCH isn’t really a scholar they are a war tactician/war medic, the fairy is meant to be a tactical advantage, it’s an identity crisis in the way the fairy isn’t designed to be the healer, the SCH is but that’s more because they won’t give us buffs

[Sylvain]

The kit intentionally gets in its own way because it wants you to plan stuff out, not just vomit out 15 CD’s like SGE does

Even if you'd give SGE an ED, it would still not be clunky. I mean, we kinda currently already do it by throwing a random [something-]chole just to regain mp in case there's nothing to heal ...

it’s an identity crisis in the way the fairy isn’t designed to be the healer, the SCH is but that’s more because they won’t give us buffs

Yet our goal is to have her and only her heal so that we can gain 300 potency per min. (+300 every 3min).
If she's not meant to be the healer then why are we trying our best to avoid gcd heal and AF-ogcd?