Moon Miqo'te Face 4 feedback

[Cheapshot]

I love the changes they made to this face and I hope they never change it. Please SE, DON'T CHANGE IT. I like how alive the eyes are and the less obvious fangs and above all, I love the new shape of the lips!

Uh, I don’t mean to sound rude and I hope I don't, but out of curiosity, why? If you didn’t like how the face looked before, there were other faces. I liked this face because it looked different than the other faces. Now it looks a lot more like the other faces. The features have been made a lot more feminine like the others. If you wanted a different face, then why not pick a different face? The lips and fangs were the most unique parts of this face selection.

[HeyMcFly]

I love the changes they made to this face and I hope they never change it. Please SE, DON'T CHANGE IT. I like how alive the eyes are and the less obvious fangs and above all, I love the new shape of the lips!

Now take your love for how the face looks now, and apply it to those of us who want the subtle uniqueness back bc we had love for it before. If you can't see beyond your own likes & wants, then there's not much else to discuss due to time wasted.
I see the little changes like the missing lip being slightly open and the crooked nose being straightened as well as the missing the bridge contour as making it more in like with generic beauty. Like uniqueness be damned. Many of us didn't pick face 4 in hopes to see what we liked about it removed.

I do like the new eye update, it's more realistic and I don't need the static light - I would however like to see changes made to increase the variety of eye shapes as they were before, without downgrading it.
And the teeth in general are a much, MUCH better shape- because Sun Seekers had a different teeth shape than Moon Keepers, and that didn't just include the fangs. The front of the teeth were actual different shapes before -> here is the thread that details it: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/451873

I think the teeth shape need to stay for sure, but lengthen the fangs because that's one of the reasons people like Moonies. There really was no reason to alter the mouth gap on face 4, because there was nothing wrong with it. And with all due politeness, If all of this is something you disliked so much before, there is literally another miqo'te tribe without fangs, aka: seekers of the sun - as well as miqo faces that already had less unique features, such as a closed mouth and odd subtle grin.

[Cheapshot]

Yeah I actually don't dislike the new teeth at all, they look good, but I think it would be nice to have it be something you can select. A category of a few different ones of varying lengths and sharpness. These new very thick lashes could have been one of a few options as well. These new fuller eyebrows, this straighter nose, these different lips. All of these changes should have been new options to select instead of replacements. The game has had such a limited character creator for so long.

[Cheapshot]

Btw I kinda like how this thread is becoming a Moonkeeper face 4 support group. I don’t see many others out in the wild because people always gravitate to the more conventionally pretty faces. I worried that there might not be enough of us to be heard, and I do still worry about that. I’m really hoping for all of us that the little charming details that made us fall in love with this face are restored.

[Gokki]

All of these look better, stop trying to look for stuff to complain about

They do look better, it's a big improvement on a technical side.
But the point is that some things changed to make it different. You would never notice these things unless it's your own character. With enough changes it becomes a different face, a different character.
When i see other characters of other species i see amazing improvements, but if you check their comments they say it's not their character anymore.

Also: this is a minority issue, most people got a direct improvement or don't care enough to post here.

[Amaya-Asha]

I have sun and moon kitty with same face 4. All of face 4 have the same issue with lip gap and other features being removed. Really hope they fix face issues for both moon and sun a lot of issues over lap. The overall look is nice so far but seeing unique traits removed just feels off.

The contouring of the original nose around the bridge was smoothed out from it's semi broken look which gave that nose shape it's charm and the devs erased it, giving the nose a more bulb like appearance.
The contouring really defined the nose - it should be a mix of both what we see in the benchmark & the original- smoother polygons, while still retaining the bridge's small crook, just cleaned up & keeping the contouring of the bridge.

The nose smudge needs to be more prominent in light as it is shading come DT.
I did some very mild editing to the face but with my miqo's presets- while I didn't give it the same contour around the bridge, I did tone down the shine, add the lip gap back, the static eye light & darken the outer part of the nostrils as well as the eyebrows. It's not great, but it's something

I'll make one of the nose in your example on how it can retain the same look, while still being improved

Before & after

[Gokki]

Yeah I actually don't dislike the new teeth at all, they look good, but I think it would be nice to have it be something you can select. A category of a few different ones of varying lengths and sharpness. These new very thick lashes could have been one of a few options as well. These new fuller eyebrows, this straighter nose, these different lips. All of these changes should have been new options to select instead of replacements. The game has had such a limited character creator for so long.

The new eyelashes make my character have an edgy eyeliner from a distance:


To me that's a different character on the right (Benchmark). I feel the new AntiAliasing is ruining the lines that define the face, making it look weird like that. It's hard to show on screenshots but it's instantly noticeble in game.

[Ryley]

If you make a bad looking character it isn't going to look good post-rework either.

[Cheapshot]

If you make a bad looking character it isn't going to look good post-rework either.

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say by this.

[Rueby]

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say by this.

A petty, passive aggressive remark. Don't give them the attention they crave.