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  1. #4211
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    It kinda puts tank in this weird spot where its only as engaging/challenging as the content you're in is.
    Even then it's not particularly engaging in the content it's primarily designed for.
    When was the last time you really needed to plan your mitigations just to survive? And I don't mean optimizing Vengeance to get some melee reflect damage out of it, I mean "Oh, for this buster happening at X minutes I have absolutely nothing ready.".
    There isn't much thought involved in "solving" buster mitigation.

    And since tank busters are pretty much the only remaining tank mechanic there is very little to do besides being a gimped DPS job.
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  2. #4212
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    Even then it's not particularly engaging in the content it's primarily designed for.
    When was the last time you really needed to plan your mitigations just to survive? And I don't mean optimizing Vengeance to get some melee reflect damage out of it, I mean "Oh, for this buster happening at X minutes I have absolutely nothing ready.".
    There isn't much thought involved in "solving" buster mitigation.

    And since tank busters are pretty much the only remaining tank mechanic there is very little to do besides being a gimped DPS job.
    I only really find that sort of gameplay in optimizing TBN usage.

    Every other tank is now Rampart + lv 82 button to survive anything, then follow it up with your other generic mit and your lv 82 button.
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  3. #4213
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    Sazuzaki's Avatar
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    Sazu Velgr
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Well, at least the new combo looks cool bros... Has a nice heavy feel to it judging from the benchmark. They're finally adding more GCDs to DRK.
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  4. #4214
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    Reinhardt_Azureheim's Avatar
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sazuzaki View Post
    Well, at least the new combo looks cool bros... Has a nice heavy feel to it judging from the benchmark. They're finally adding more GCDs to DRK.
    Like how Dragoon got new combo pieces called Chaotic Spring and Heaven's Thrust, am I right? ( °u°)

    Jokes aside, I really hope whatever we saw is more than "big hitting GCD but with 60/120s CD" or "big hitting oGCD but with 60/120s CD". Or just visual upgrades for Souleater combo for that matter.
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  5. #4215
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    Sazuzaki's Avatar
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    Sazu Velgr
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Like how Dragoon got new combo pieces called Chaotic Spring and Heaven's Thrust, am I right? ( °u°)
    Inb4 lvl 100 trait: Enhanced Souleater

    I guess if it had to be augmented 1-2-3, I wouldn't mind if it was attached to something like Delirium or Blood Weapon? Truth be told, I absolutely wouldn't be surprised if it's gonna be some one button combo like the swords from PLD on a 60s CD.
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  6. #4216
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    mallleable's Avatar
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    Malia Tri'el
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    What if the new DRK stuff is them turning Carve, and Spit into a 3 part GCD combo like Gnashing Fang.
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  7. #4217
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    Keagian's Avatar
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    Keagian Lowell
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I'm gonna make a guess that the new moves are just Enhanced Bloodspiller and Quietus under the effects of Delirium.
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  8. #4218
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    Sazuzaki's Avatar
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    Sazu Velgr
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Keagian View Post
    I'm gonna make a guess that the new moves are just Enhanced Bloodspiller and Quietus under the effects of Delirium.
    Solid guess... I do hope it's not our capstone ability, seeing as they usually wait to show those until the job action trailer.
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  9. #4219
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    Sazuzaki's Avatar
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    Sazu Velgr
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Well, after looking at some specific things, I'm fairly certain what we saw was DRK Confiteor. Please look forward to it.

    Guess we'll see in the media tour.
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    Last edited by Sazuzaki; 04-18-2024 at 08:06 AM. Reason: typo

  10. #4220
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    Zairava's Avatar
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    Grimahed Darkovin
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sazuzaki View Post
    Well, after looking at some specific things, I'm fairly certain what we saw was DRK Confiteor. Please look forward to it.

    Guess we'll see in the media tour.
    That or the job action trailer, if launched at the combat liveletter on the 16th.

    At any rate, while the ideal is that more is going on with DRK than what we see in the benchmark, I'll take DRK confiteor over what is now easily. The combo itself could have something more going on, such as actually making use of Darkside for the first time in what, 5-6 years now?

    No, Shadowbringer doesn't count since you can essentially keep Darkside running while comatose.

    My prediction is that it indeed is not our capstone, but it does make me wonder what is if it isn't.

    I overanalyzed the hell out of what the DRK did before the new GCD's started, and while it's hard to tell, it seems to be an Edge of Shadow or an upgrade of it.
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