Nerf gil profit from submarine

[Boblawblah]

You didn't have to find me lmfao. I'm open about how many plots I own. Currently 17 and counting. Got a problem with it? Sucks to be you, season my meals please and thanks. I don't even farm subs in but 4 of mine so be even more salty now. They all sit empty cause they can.

You're like an angry version of Stormy...

Speaking of which, whatever happened to Stormy??

[AzhreiVahlok]

I know, that is why I said "months" in my post too. Still it is stupid that a single hardcore players buys up plots just for that reason, and I think once it is running, the rewards are too good for people who are constantly active. What do they need the gil for if they are already capped?

you do realize 1 entire account can only own one FC plot right? (a friend has an alt with her own little FC cause she's a hoarder... >.< But she can't bid on her main toon when we try to get a bigger house in our FC cause her alt has one. I even made an alt to shove in her alt fc and take over and kick her alt out to get rid of the hidden house owner tag on a toon that wins a bid [as in her toon]. That worked... she could help us bid on the next one. Then her alt came back in the alt FC and now her main can't bid again, when MY ALT should be the owner AND the hidden owner...)

How is one single player owning 20 FC's? Or are u pullign crap outta your behind? that first screenshot.... LOL they prolly saved those things up for YEARS (or at least 1)... And u do realize most people are normal people in an FC with only one set of ships right? If one person is somehow making that much off that stuff by themselves and doing NOTHING but that.... so what? IT bother you somehow? I'd say not.

[Jalei]

you do realize 1 entire account can only own one FC plot right? (a friend has an alt with her own little FC cause she's a hoarder... >.< But she can't bid on her main toon when we try to get a bigger house in our FC cause her alt has one. I even made an alt to shove in her alt fc and take over and kick her alt out to get rid of the hidden house owner tag on a toon that wins a bid [as in her toon]. That worked... she could help us bid on the next one. Then her alt came back in the alt FC and now her main can't bid again, when MY ALT should be the owner AND the hidden owner...)

How is one single player owning 20 FC's? Or are u pullign crap outta your behind? that first screenshot.... LOL they prolly saved those things up for YEARS (or at least 1)... And u do realize most people are normal people in an FC with only one set of ships right? If one person is somehow making that much off that stuff by themselves and doing NOTHING but that.... so what? IT bother you somehow? I'd say not.

I mean they aren't wrong. We can own as many fc houses as we want on the same account. Character A bids, Character A wins. Transfers lead to an alt, leaves that fc. Now they start a new fc/join another and start over again. Its a fairly straight forward and not complex process at all. So in this one instance, they aren't pulling crap outta their behind. Everything else, well yea I'm mostly with you.

You're like an angry version of Stormy...

Speaking of which, whatever happened to Stormy??

The fact you think I'm angry over this makes it all better lol. I'm laughing at how overly invested you all are in the way others play the game. People on the opposite side of this have nothing to be angry over, quite frankly the other side doesn't either. The only common ground is that its pathetic how most are using 3rd party to simplify an already simple process. Kinda stupid if you ask me since it only takes less than 10mins per fc as is(being generous). But anyway, thank you for making this much better for me lol. Also, don't know Stormy and don't care to know them or anyone here really.

[ZiraZ]

you do realize 1 entire account can only own one FC plot right? (a friend has an alt with her own little FC cause she's a hoarder... >.< But she can't bid on her main toon when we try to get a bigger house in our FC cause her alt has one. I even made an alt to shove in her alt fc and take over and kick her alt out to get rid of the hidden house owner tag on a toon that wins a bid [as in her toon]. That worked... she could help us bid on the next one. Then her alt came back in the alt FC and now her main can't bid again, when MY ALT should be the owner AND the hidden owner...)

How is one single player owning 20 FC's? Or are u pullign crap outta your behind? that first screenshot.... LOL they prolly saved those things up for YEARS (or at least 1)... And u do realize most people are normal people in an FC with only one set of ships right? If one person is somehow making that much off that stuff by themselves and doing NOTHING but that.... so what? IT bother you somehow? I'd say not.

So they just make an alt account to pass the fcs onto alts of the main one, repeat. I mean you just answered yourself how it's possible, what? having at least 2 accounts is sub farm scumbag rule 101

[TwistedTea]

You are right about that last part, I think I would've dropped this a long time ago if they just came out saying "yup, we just want the cash with whatever means necessary bye". But they sit here telling lies about it being OH SO DIFFICULT, oh wow so time consuming!, oh a tremendous cost investment! oh it doesn't hurt housing look at all those fc smalls nobody wants because normal players are not interested in making an fc! reprehensible players that cry in pain as they strike you to protect their housing abuse

But you don't drop it. You keep bumping up these posts when you can. Methinks you just enjoy shitposting
It's ok, I do too

Multiple times, you've said it's minimal effort. Which is untrue. If you're in the sub discord, you know it takes around 5-6 months of banging your head against RNG to get subs farming the most basic Fight Club, OJ route from scratch.

Submarines are a very heavy front loaded investment in terms of time and gil. Yes, it might be minimal effort after those ~6 months.

Also, it doesn't seem a lot of people want FC small plots. My server, Coeurl has 91 small plots available to FCs.
Quite a number of those have not had a single bid in months. Coeurl was designated a Congested server until relatively recently.There's a similar situation across NA servers regarding FC smalls.

[Kaurhz]

Man this thread is wild. I was about to salt my food until I looked in here. Realized there's enough salty tears that I'm good on seasoning. I have never seen so much "whaa whaa where's my passive gil and me me me", garbage. Jesus Christ people get a life. I cannot begin to understand how subshacks live so rent free in your minds. Truly a sight to behold. The amount of entitlement you take over how others play is truly mind numbing. If you can't make gil, that's a YOU problem. If you aren't running subs, that's a YOU problem. The housing system as flawed as it may be allows players to own all these plots. Maybe, just maybe and I know this is a radical thought here cause some of you can't fathom it. Stop complaining about other people printing gil cause you "can't" and just start printing gil yourselves. Then you can't cry so damn much. Truly pathetic behavior to believe you're entitled to tell others how to play the game or even remotely get to decide that. You're all no different than the casuals trying to tell raiders they shouldn't have ultimates or the uptight easily offended always madge over rp/erp venues.

You've probably got the second, or third-most aggressive post/tone of anyone in this thread, lmao.

I wouldn't talk about 'easily offended' if I were you. If the requisite for 'easily offended' is expressing a problem, then you have also done the same here whilst subsequently coming across as someone who clearly cannot handle a matter of opinion.

[ZiraZ]

But you don't drop it. You keep bumping up these posts when you can. Methinks you just enjoy shitposting
It's ok, I do too

Multiple times, you've said it's minimal effort. Which is untrue. If you're in the sub discord, you know it takes around 5-6 months of banging your head against RNG to get subs farming the most basic Fight Club, OJ route from scratch.

Submarines are a very heavy front loaded investment in terms of time and gil. Yes, it might be minimal effort after those ~6 months.

Also, it doesn't seem a lot of people want FC small plots. My server, Coeurl has 91 small plots available to FCs.
Quite a number of those have not had a single bid in months. Coeurl was designated a Congested server until relatively recently.There's a similar situation across NA servers regarding FC smalls.

Next you're gonna say leveling retainers is high effort
poor sub farmers, gotta navigate a menu once in a while

[TwistedTea]

Next you're gonna say leveling retainers is high effort
poor sub farmers, gotta navigate a menu once in a while

Do retainers take around 5-6 months to level while dealing with RNG?

Also, I've noticed you've not addressed the fact that there so many vacant FC small plots on NA servers.

Jenova currently has 73 small plots available to FCs

But that doesn't serve your moral grandstanding narrative right?

[ZiraZ]

Do retainers take around 5-6 months to level while dealing with RNG?

Also, I've noticed you've not addressed the fact that there so many vacant FC small plots on NA servers.

But that doesn't serve your moral grandstanding narrative right?

sector rng is a nonissue and you know this, modifier parts are not needed and regular parts are dirt cheap
I already addressed why there's so many smalls on dead servers, the average player is not a scumbag and has no interest in doing sub farms and doesn't want to bother making an fc just for a solo house, the established sub farms already hit critical mass and don't need to expand further into more houses, they are instead focusing upgrading to larges and mediums to resell them with their army of alts. (to anyone reading this, if your fc is trying to upgrade into a large or medium its the sub farms that are spamming bids with numerous alts just for 1 person, this is why sub farms affect you.)
are you gonna go post more screenshots in the sub discord now?

[Reimmi]

That's genius

honestly yeah this would make it so having a sub farm isn't really feasible