Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
Er, what? Tank damage output has had a steady decline since the end of Heavensward, and gear progression on tanks has been consistently terrible. You'll rarely see a DPS BiS with unwanted stats. The difference between a tank and DPS is so significant nowadays that you would have to be undergeared, have Brink of Death, and be physically away from your keyboard before a tank player catches up to you.

If anything, the balance has swung too far away from tanks in terms of damage and rotational complexity, and there's a lot less incentive to play the role now. Pretty much the only saving grace is in the fact that tanks have taken over the healer role in lieu of having meaningful impact in terms of positioning or dealing damage. Even queue times don't justify playing a tank right now, and it's not at all hard to find a spot as a DPS.

DPS is the only role that is currently happy with the existing gameplay design. I know you have this mindset that nerfing tanks would somehow make people value healers more, but that's far from the case. The erosion of healer value has more to do with the ongoing and widespread community commentary on one-button Broil gameplay.
High level optimised tank damage has been going down but average tank contribution has been rising considering tank rotations barely have a fail state anymore (not that DPS rotations are much better). If you compare the contribution of the collective supports vs the collective DPS in Alexander or coils vs panda the supports do way more of the raids collective damage than they used to even if a gold parsing phys ranged vs a gold parsing tank in Alexander was closer

Still you are overestimating how far behind the tanks are in damage especially since tanks have a smaller range of DPS discrepancy compared to the DPS so it’s much easier to achieve the relative average

And I’m not in favour of nerfing the tanks because I want people to “value the healers more” I’m in favour of nerfing tanks because if your role gets eroded you don’t just co opt another role and call it good, you ever wonder why healer mains never ask for a tank stance, we ask to fix our own role, tanks encroachment on the other roles needs to be fixed, you can’t “make the healers more interesting” your way out of the fact that WAR has too much healing