Instanced Housing

[Ravenblade1979]

That really is the problem. I don't know how my neighbors haven't lost their houses by now.

They only keep the sub to walk in the house to reset the timer lol

[Rueby]

Island sanctuary showed us that we 'could' have instanced housing but SE doesn't want to yet claims they 'can't'. Island Sanctuary could've had literally a shack in it that leads into an instance that functions very similar to the INSTANCED interior of housing that you can customize or decorate. Instead you do slave labor for Tataru and a bunch of damn rude mammets and call it 'yours'. Our housing is just an illusion, we can't see the 'neighborhood' from inside, it's just a box with a generic fixed window that hardly reflects what's on the outside.

The housing system is a miserable experience. I'd like to think those who went through with it, don't want to lose their houses to go through with it again because of the housing shortage which becomes a loop of sorts. Those who interacted with the system and are unable to get a house are rightfully frustrated but I don't think we should be at each other's neck. I own a house but I'd love for instanced housing to be a thing, I think it should be a thing when alot of the seasonal events provide furniture yet it exists to taunt players with what they can't obtain. I don't believe SE pours as much resources back into the game as it should, as much as I love this game it's how I've felt for the past two years.

Apartments are instanced housing but it's pitiful and unfulfilling- a glorified shoebox if anything. The inn rooms in Kugane and the Crystarium have beautiful balconies with a static backdrop, would it be hard to create upgradable apartments? from shoe box to one with fancy balcony, larger size/item count for an exchange of gil? Ultimately the apartment buildings offer no real difference aside from different ceiling/collumn/generic window. It'd be nice if every housing district provided unique apartments that reflect the aesthetic of that region. It'd be nice if apartments had nice upgrades like the aforementioned inn rooms. It might lessen the burden on houses and offer something unique as a compensation..

[GoatOfWar]

Once again, that's an improvement to certain people, but not for everyone, that's your opinion that it would be an improvement for everyone.

At least give us an example of in what ways instanced housing would be worse for the game.

[Yuniko]

At least give us an example of in what ways instanced housing would be worse for the game.

They can't. Cause they don't care. They already own 99999999 houses.

[Solowing]

No one's gonna fight over the house but also no one's gonna care. The limitations will likely be friends list only. You're gonna decorate your house, Finish it likely leave and rarely ever come back. Because there's no reason to come back.What the limited degree of people that you can have over and the lack of content within housing. (Island sanctuary) In my opinion, if we really wanted to show the developers that housing was as big of as interest as these forms make it out to be then they would have decorated the outside of the island sanctuar in to show S.E that there is interest here.



The scarcity is what makes it such a hot commodity, And If you lose your plot for not logging in it might be a very long time before you get another one so you better stay subbed.

[Khryseis_Astra]

No one's gonna fight over the house but also no one's gonna care. The limitations will likely be friends list only. You're gonna decorate your house, Finish it likely leave and rarely ever come back. Because there's no reason to come back.What the limited degree of people that you In my opinion, if we really wanted to show the developers that housing was as big of as interest as these forms make it out to be then they would have decorated the outside of the island sanctuar in to show S.E that there is interest here.

The scarcity is what makes it such a hot commodity, And If you lose your plot for not logging in it might be a very long time before you get another one so you better stay subbed.

A lot of people did and do decorate their Island; many housing discords have a special section to showcase their work. I change it out for each season/event, just like I do the yard of my ward plot. And I do spend a lot of time there still. It’s a much larger place to decorate. Honestly though, the permissions list from IS would be a dream for many people… only friends, FC members or party members? And you can toggle those on and off? Great! The only people who need a space accessible by hundreds at a time are the venues. For those that just want a private decorating space that they can share with friends, the limited access instanced could provide is actually preferable.

The idea that if everyone could access a fully equivalent housing system, it would make housing “meaningless,” “less popular,” or “less valuable” only applies to those that see their house as some sort of trophy. Those who see it as a creative space for decorating couldn’t care less about all that, and will happily decorate their instanced spaces while others can still brag about scoring the premium plots in the wards.

[Solowing]

The idea that if everyone could access a fully equivalent housing system, it would make housing “meaningless,” “less popular,” or “less valuable” only applies to those that see their house as some sort of trophy. Those who see it as a creative space for decorating couldn’t care less about all that, and will happily decorate their instanced spaces while others can still brag about scoring the premium plots in the wards.

No, they aren't wrong..House selling sites, Shell FCs crated to buy and sell off houses, people camping houses for 18 hour straight placard clicking to win a virtual house, and the bots created to do the same. There is very much merit to what they say. Ferrari does this, Rolex does this, hell first edition charazards are selling for $30,000. Scarcity=Value. But myself am proof of why the system works for them. I got my first house (on Excalibur) during the "Great Housing Rush of Shirogane" Oct 2017? its 2024. I still own that same plot today, and given that I own the fc and plot next door. I cannot stay logged out for longer then 2 weeks to lose my fc and likely the plot it sits on and 41 days for my private. I've been subscribed for nearly 10 years and a large part of it is to not lose my in-game house because if I lose it. Its likely going to be awhile before I see another one...

So what's the price of a #5 with a small drink, once a month for the last 8 years to make sure I don't end up losing it? It be nice to take a break, but my subscription hasn't lapsed because the possibility of getting another plot is even lower now (I got my plots during the walk up and buy era). They have no incentive to change that system. let me have my instanced version, if it cant be demolished. I can finally take a genuine break if I don't feel interested in playing the content. (Which is good for me, but why would they give up on pretty much free money?)

[LianaThorne]

Lol except cash shop is OPTIONAL. So really you need to drop that and trust me. Alot of us would pay a few dollars more.

Also guessing you in usa. I'm in canada and pay way more then you folks do for the ffxiv sub and retainers. So if I'm willing to pay a few bucks more then that's saying something.

Actually could probably bet you the universe that the game wouldn't really lose any players over this if it happened and not lose lol.

No. Any changes to housing should be provided to the playerbase for free. There is no difference between paid instanced housing and what we have now (i.e. keeping people locked to a sub to keep housing) and frankly, I'd rather keep ward housing if it means I don't have to tack an extra $5 onto my sub every month.

I'm not going to say anything further than that because this idea isn't worth entertaining.

[LianaThorne]

At least give us an example of in what ways instanced housing would be worse for the game.

I don't think there is a bad reason outside of maybe people putting expectations too high on seeing people all the time compared to now. Like, what is going to enable people to hang out outside the "entrance" unless there's a venue event going on?

I feel like it'll still just be the same ghost town effect as now, just people might be happier since they have a bigger house (if Square even allows for people to select their house size rather than compete for a large one).

[Jojoya]

I don't think there is a bad reason outside of maybe people putting expectations too high on seeing people all the time compared to now. Like, what is going to enable people to hang out outside the "entrance" unless there's a venue event going on?

I feel like it'll still just be the same ghost town effect as now, just people might be happier since they have a bigger house (if Square even allows for people to select their house size rather than compete for a large one).

Why did players start congregating in the Limsa Aetheryte Plaza? There's nothing special there to attract them and yet it became a popular spot.

Foot traffic is what made it popular. The more random players you encounter, the greater the chance of stopping to have a random conversation. The more that stop to chat, the more likely others will do the same.

Any entrance to instanced housing would likewise be dependent on foot traffic before it became a spot to congregate. That's why most wards are dead now. There's no foot traffic most of the time.

Certainly it's not going to be any worse than things already are in the wards.