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  1. #5411
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minali View Post
    Are we talking about the same trailer here? The Hrothgar announcement trailer from Shadowbringers I found on the official channel absolutely showed fur patterns and fangs. (Though tbf I'm not entirely sure what is meant with whiskers, my Hrothgar doesn't have any, but maybe I just didn't see the option in the character generator.) Not the full range of fur patterns of course, but they had jaguar patterns.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l82wTaVhW0
    Face 1 (Runar) is the only one with whiskers (the traditional cat ones), while Face 3 (Coeurl) has the Coeurl moustache. Faces 2 and 4 do not have those, but they do have other special features, like face 2 having eyebrows and face 4 having the horn.
    I also rewatched the Viera and Hrothgar trailers from the official YT account and noticed the Hrothgar had Fur patterns showing, but their race outfit does expose their back and chest more, making it noticeable. Also when I watched the Female Hrothgar trailer I noticed none have their highlights turned on, all having just the base hair colour (Probably the patterns were at the time not ready). And as much as I wish to have the same patterns as the males, if I learned anything from Au'Ra, Miquo'te and Viera; is that male and female characteristics are similar, but not replicated 1:1. Like the Au'Ra horns being different from male to female, even though they have 4 sets each, Miquo'te ears with the males being slightly different and can have spots, and Vieras with the 4 ears that follow the same idea, but not looking the same (for example the lop ears).
    The same could end up happening for the females, they might have the same 4 patterns, but altered to be made more feminine.
    As for the fangs, I have not seen 1 female Hrothgar that had visible fangs, it could be that they haven't shown it yet. But they have shown the faces with the race markings, even though in the trailer none had them.
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  2. #5412
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    I just need the hair to have highlight options like everyone else. I could deal without the fur, but my signature colors are rust red and peach highlights. So without that, I am not me. If that even makes sense.
    I just checked for you and the Racial Hairstyles do not display the Highlights. However, the other Hairstyles do. So you can have your signature colours (They are very lovely BTW), but maybe not on the racial hair. Or at least that is how it is with the males.
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  3. #5413
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pip_Chick View Post
    Face 1 (Runar) is the only one with whiskers (the traditional cat ones), while Face 3 (Coeurl) has the Coeurl moustache. Faces 2 and 4 do not have those, but they do have other special features, like face 2 having eyebrows and face 4 having the horn.
    I also rewatched the Viera and Hrothgar trailers from the official YT account and noticed the Hrothgar had Fur patterns showing, but their race outfit does expose their back and chest more, making it noticeable. Also when I watched the Female Hrothgar trailer I noticed none have their highlights turned on, all having just the base hair colour (Probably the patterns were at the time not ready). And as much as I wish to have the same patterns as the males, if I learned anything from Au'Ra, Miquo'te and Viera; is that male and female characteristics are similar, but not replicated 1:1. Like the Au'Ra horns being different from male to female, even though they have 4 sets each, Miquo'te ears with the males being slightly different and can have spots, and Vieras with the 4 ears that follow the same idea, but not looking the same (for example the lop ears).
    The same could end up happening for the females, they might have the same 4 patterns, but altered to be made more feminine.
    As for the fangs, I have not seen 1 female Hrothgar that had visible fangs, it could be that they haven't shown it yet. But they have shown the faces with the race markings, even though in the trailer none had them.
    Wuk Lamat seems to have the same "collar" males do, at least judging from her exposed shoulder fluff, and said fluff also appears on the sides of her thighs and ankles, so as you said, maybe they do have fur patterns, but are different than the males.

    For Wuk Lamat specifically, my guess is they gave her a "caucasian skin tone" with no patterns to avoid spoilers (even tho it was obvious she was a Hrothgal from the get go), but no idea about why none of the reveal trailer Hrothgals had them either. Could be they're still in development, or could be a deliberate choice, who knows. We can only wait and see.
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    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

  4. #5414
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    For Wuk Lamat specifically, my guess is they gave her a "caucasian skin tone" with no patterns to avoid spoilers
    Seems like a poor way to control spoilers over just giving her some solid legwear as a temporary outfit.
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  5. #5415
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    Makes me wonder, did they replace the half-model in that previous cut scene with a full model now that she's been fully revealed? Seems like a silly and pointless thing to do, but it also seems like the kind of thing these devs might do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Makes me wonder, did they replace the half-model in that previous cut scene with a full model now that she's been fully revealed? Seems like a silly and pointless thing to do, but it also seems like the kind of thing these devs might do.
    Nope, the CS where Wuk gets off the boat is still just her legs. They didn't replace the teaser model with the full one. Only reason why I can tell is because there is no tail or cape in the CS which would show up if the upper body part of the model was used instead. also before you ask this was done on a NG+ not re-watching the UJ.

    On another note I hope that they do release the Benchmark shortly after the 14 hour stream. I know I was hoping (but really doubted it would happen) that Pax would of given us a date for the Benchmark and did the showing off at a Live Letter at a later date. At this point they should have the graphics set up (at least for Dawntrail since I know going back to the older expansions and updating those are going to happen during the 7.1-7.5 patches of the expansion) and be focused on the Quality Assurance and Analysis part of the development, so I wouldn't think that "Still working on the Graphics Update" should be an excuse for why the Benchmark wouldn't be able to release this month. Because if they are still working on the graphics with less than 3 months left till launch then they are more then likely behind schedule at this point and going to cause Yoshi-P to breakdown with another existential crisis if they have to delay like they did for Endwalker and I don't think anyone wants to see that happen again.
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  7. #5417
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    And then I saw that I had missed two pages of interesting discussions! But I have to admit, I'm very glad to see this topic lively. This is heart warming!

    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    I just need the hair to have highlight options like everyone else. I could deal without the fur, but my signature colors are rust red and peach highlights. So without that, I am not me. If that even makes sense.
    Ooh, that definitely makes sense. And it's just me, but I love players who have developed a certain style for themselves in character; color palette, figure details, etc. Myself, for example, try to keep moles (will probably replace with similar color spots on the fur) and scratches where I have them. Something like a small but important link between me and my alter ego.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pip_Chick View Post
    The same could end up happening for the females, they might have the same 4 patterns, but altered to be made more feminine.
    As for the fangs, I have not seen 1 female Hrothgar that had visible fangs, it could be that they haven't shown it yet. But they have shown the faces with the race markings, even though in the trailer none had them.
    That was a good analysis, Pip, I appreciate it! Although at first I even thought that got it wrong, and jumped in CC to make sure... that race hairstyles really don't have highlights. :| Can't say I approve, but would guess offhand that during the process of creating shades of the patterns, devs decided to sacrifice highlights, after all finding a way in common ones. Maybe they wanted to leave this state of affairs as a feature... But I, of course, would prefer fair match, like all other races.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nureus View Post
    I wouldn't think that "Still working on the Graphics Update" should be an excuse for why the Benchmark wouldn't be able to release this month. Because if they are still working on the graphics with less than 3 months left till launch then they are more then likely behind schedule at this point and going to cause Yoshi-P to breakdown with another existential crisis if they have to delay like they did for Endwalker and I don't think anyone wants to see that happen again.
    Aye, I remember the time before release of Endwalker. Yoshi P looked so sad and exhausted back then. Highly hope this time everything goes as smoothly as clockwork for all of us, players, developers, and developers who are players too!
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  8. #5418
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    The FFXIV Twitter just posted a picture earlier of the new zone Yak'Tel! We know this to be the home for Hrothgar and Mamool Ja.
    What do you guys think we might get to see there? Will we see a functioning tribe of Hrothgars or will they be acting more like Hyurs (In pairs)? I am so hyped and wanted to share some energy! The 14 hour live is close and I hope we will get a date for the Benchmark!


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  9. #5419
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pip_Chick View Post
    The FFXIV Twitter just posted a picture earlier of the new zone Yak'Tel! We know this to be the home for Hrothgar and Mamool Ja.
    What do you guys think we might get to see there? Will we see a functioning tribe of Hrothgars or will they be acting more like Hyurs (In pairs)? I am so hyped and wanted to share some energy! The 14 hour live is close and I hope we will get a date for the Benchmark!


    Really all just depends how the mapping is or where it's all located.

    Unlike other games, XIV really doesn't have a Mapping Community(Mapping Unreleased/New Maps Prior to Their Official Release. Largely Based off of trailers, art, or information dumps/reveals. Occasionally Leaks are used. But still largely Hated in other games. Unless of course, the game has terrible Suppor<Tech Support/Bugs/Exploits/Glitches>)

    If Solution 9 Artwork/Screenshots/Videos had actually landmarks/npcs/identifying features. I wouldn't doubt some players would of already mapped out locations.

    And that's, even if they can do much before hand.

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    From what the art, we see a large "Tower" with a extended ledge. Be it just a pole for the use of hanging objects, or a actual landing zone for Flying/Gliding/Floating Objects.

    and Dirt Paths/Bridges heading to a larger community deeper in the Art.

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    So far, there really is no Exact or concrete info on how their Society is Overall Spread. (Asides it being a Melting Pot of Multiple Races/Species)

    We see alot of Mamoolja in the Main City(Likely the one to have the Marketboard, unless they flip the script. and make Solution or some other location the Endgame Location/MarketBoard City.)

    It honestly could just be like Thavnair, with the outer locations having Hrothgar, and mamoolja.
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  10. #5420
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    Run Free Rothgals.., RUN FREE
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