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    ff9 is such a gem of a game; and better than 7
    FFIX is what I perceive to be a true Final Fantasy game in the sense that it focuses more on being an RPG than an anime fan service like VII. There really isn't a main character, but each character has a distinctive path they follow and personal goals/hardships, a true job system focusing on heavy D&D elements, a compelling villain with clear motives, and a phenomenal story with plenty of comic relief and a fantastic ending to wave off severe depression. IX was nearly perfect. It fumbled a bit with Necron as the insert last boss, and a Kuja redemption arc, but I personally forgive it.

    That game definitely has a special place with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    FFIX is what I perceive to be a true Final Fantasy game in the sense that it focuses more on being an RPG than an anime fan service like VII. There really isn't a main character, but each character has a distinctive path they follow and personal goals/hardships, a true job system focusing on heavy D&D elements, a compelling villain with clear motives, and a phenomenal story with plenty of comic relief and a fantastic ending to wave off severe depression. IX was nearly perfect. It fumbled a bit with Necron as the insert last boss, and a Kuja redemption arc, but I personally forgive it.

    That game definitely has a special place with me.
    IX is my absolute favorite but I think you're confusing it with something else. There's no job system in it. Everyone is very much specific jobs and the abilities they can learn from gear go along with those jobs. Only ones who really toe that line are Eiko and Dagger for white mage/summoner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    IX is my absolute favorite but I think you're confusing it with something else. There's no job system in it. Everyone is very much specific jobs and the abilities they can learn from gear go along with those jobs. Only ones who really toe that line are Eiko and Dagger for white mage/summoner.
    That's exactly what the job system is. The job titles don't have to spelled out for you in the menu screen for the game to be classified as a FF with an intact job system. Based on abilities, weapons, and even personalities, you know Vivi is a Black Mage, Zidane is a Thief, Steiner is a Knight/Paladin, Beatrix is a Paladin, Dagger is a White Mage, Eiko a summoner, Freya a Dragoon, etc.
    Not only are their jobs mentioned in dialogue throughout the game and stated in their lore, they are also arguably some of the best representations of Final Fantasy's iconic jobs. If Dagger's callback wearing the WHM robe when she flees the castle keep doesn't say this, I don't know what does.

    FF games without a job system are games like VI, VII, and VIII where aside from some niche innate skills, everyone can learn everything if enough game time is put in. Making them all essentially the same. One of the reasons why IX was so refreshing was because it returned what made FF games great in the first place.

    I am definitely not confusing this title with something else. It's one of my favorite games of all time.
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    Please no, especially with tifa or aerith glamour rewards. The amount of cringe couples with cloud and aerith or tifa glamours will be catastrophic.
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    Eiko is more White Mage than Sarah is. Based on their respective trance modes, Sarah's Summon changes to Eidolon while Eiko gets Double White Magic.. Though both are from the same Madain Sari
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    Glad to see some fellow IX enjoyers out here, I wouldn't be so opposed to VII if Square didn't try to take any opportunity to keep shoving it down the people's throats.

    If anyone game deserves to be crossed over with FFXIV it'd be IX. Maybe with Dawntrail.. hopefully. That being said Beatrix and Steiner glamour please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    That's exactly what the job system is. The job titles don't have to spelled out for you in the menu screen for the game to be classified as a FF with an intact job system. Based on abilities, weapons, and even personalities, you know Vivi is a Black Mage, Zidane is a Thief, Steiner is a Knight/Paladin, Beatrix is a Paladin, Dagger is a White Mage, Eiko a summoner, Freya a Dragoon, etc.
    Not only are their jobs mentioned in dialogue throughout the game and stated in their lore, they are also arguably some of the best representations of Final Fantasy's iconic jobs. If Dagger's callback wearing the WHM robe when she flees the castle keep doesn't say this, I don't know what does.
    Except for Amarant, who's basically a red mage, but you'd never guess by looking at him. And Quina the blue mage, but how would you call them at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    FFIX is what I perceive to be a true Final Fantasy game in the sense that it focuses more on being an RPG than an anime fan service like VII. There really isn't a main character, but each character has a distinctive path they follow and personal goals/hardships, a true job system focusing on heavy D&D elements, a compelling villain with clear motives, and a phenomenal story with plenty of comic relief and a fantastic ending to wave off severe depression. IX was nearly perfect. It fumbled a bit with Necron as the insert last boss, and a Kuja redemption arc, but I personally forgive it.

    That game definitely has a special place with me.
    I largely agree with your post but how is FFVII "anime fan service" ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    Eiko is more White Mage than Sarah is. Based on their respective trance modes, Sarah's Summon changes to Eidolon while Eiko gets Double White Magic.. Though both are from the same Madain Sari
    Potato/potata. Like you said, both are from the same village and can summon Eidolons along with using curative magic. But instead of making them identical they made one more offensive and the other more supportive. I just mentioned that Garnet is more representative due to wearing the iconic WHM robe to conceal her identity during her escape. I admit to a small bias as WHM has always been one of my favorite jobs and Garnet is more memorable to me than Eiko.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Except for Amarant, who's basically a red mage, but you'd never guess by looking at him. And Quina the blue mage, but how would you call them at all?
    More or less through their abilities. I mean, Quina's main hand was a spoon, but BLU has never really had a distinctive weapon. It has changed from game to game. The point remains the same, and each of them had a distinctive 'job' within the party, even if a bit ambiguous among classic FF jobs.

    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    I largely agree with your post but how is FFVII "anime fan service" ?
    Oh man, how is it not? Anime is essentially action/RPG, which is what VII leans towards. Even more so with later iterations of it such as Crisis Core, Remake, and Rebirth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Anime is essentially action/RPG, which is what VII leans towards.
    Hmm, I could see the Remake series being defined as an Action RPG but OG FFVII isn't any more of an Action RPG than FFIX. They use the same battle system.

    Unless by action/RPG you meant it just has a lot of action, which also would apply to every other entry in the series.

    Not trying to argue I'm just trying to understand what you mean. I haven't heard that description of the game before.

    EDIT: This was my 666th post HAIL DIABOLOS!
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