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  1. #671
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    Yeah, nobody is asking for her to get fired. But she's certainly been advocating for other woman to get fired for doing what she's doing. Sweet irony.

    But these children don't know how to use forums and keep going for personal attacks instead of engaging, to derail the conversation. Lets keep these facts up here for sane people to learn about ♥
    They can keep sticking their heads in the sand throwing ists and phobes slurs at people. 9 outta 10 times it's just self deflection any way.
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    Do not feed the trolls

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilithRose View Post

    I like how you've gone from straight "Transphobia!" and "Conspiracy!", to slowly admitting more of this is true though.
    Rest assured I agree with none of your transphobic, bigoted rhetoric, and do not join you on your anti-dei crusade.

    I was trying to explain why it's not nepotism just because you don't like the company.

    But that clearly went over your head.
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  3. #673
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    And now all you're doing is trying to play the victim for being called out on your bigoted conspiracy theory junk.
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  4. #674
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilithRose View Post
    Yeah, nobody is asking for her to get fired. But she's certainly been advocating for other woman to get fired for doing what she's doing. Sweet irony.

    But these children don't know how to use forums and keep going for personal attacks instead of engaging, to derail the conversation. Lets keep these facts up here for sane people to learn about ♥
    They can keep sticking their heads in the sand throwing ists and phobes slurs at people. 9 outta 10 times it's just self deflection any way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    I'm asking for them to fire her, hire someone else; or let me swap her voice to Japanese while having the rest of the cast be English.
    I mean, yea, folks definitely were. That's on the second page, I know it was a while back.
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  5. #675
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    Now who's using buzzwords? (◍´͈ꈊ`͈◍)
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  6. #676
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrForester View Post
    Bigot
    ya ya, more buzzwords. Get back to me when you learn proper English and know how to discuss like a grown up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    I mean, yea, folks definitely were. That's on the second page, I know it was a while back.
    Quite a bit ago, also less than 1% of this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    Now who's using buzzwords? (◍´͈ꈊ`͈◍)
    Oh, you actually replied... sortoff. Try laying actually arguing the arguments.

    Quote Originally Posted by LilithRose View Post
    No conspiracies here. Sweet Baby Inc. is a DEI (Diversity, Equity and Inclusion) consultancy group. Their CEO also gives speeches at the GDC (Game Developers Conference) to teach other developers and consultancy groups to use Scare/Intimidation tactics to get their changes implemented. How exactly is still debated, though there are people from the industry stepping forward as whistleblowers currently.

    Now I recognize this is just one such group. But this group in particular, Does have Square Enix under their clientele.
    So this is possibly relevant.

    Especially when your "sensitivity reader" and "game writer" for "diversity, equity, and inclusion" apparently loves talking racist shit on twitter, and how they want to abort jews off the planet.

    So we have the fact that Square Enix are clients of Sweet Baby Inc. People clearly are noticing something's off about this character, or you wouldn't hear people chiming in here. Upto page 63 no less. You're free to have your own opinions, and I didn't state anything definitive. But this does look like a red flag to me if you tally in Sena Bryer's activism history on Twitter.

    Where, if you read what she says. By her very own logic, she should step down.
    Quote Originally Posted by LilithRose View Post
    Small update here, since Square Enix made a deal with Microsoft.

    To shorten my Microsoft message a little, you can still read back the original. Whilst Microsoft themselves say they do not mandate these changes. We've had 2 developers coming out to describe the sweeping changes they've inside their companies after partnering up with Microsoft.
    • Hiring of a DEI director
    • Hiring of consulting firm to gender balance and review hiring/promotion policies.
    • Hiring of Sweet Baby Inc. to work on the published games.

    This last bit seems to sort out, as Sweet Baby Inc. has Square Enix in their client list. Making it seem like like people's suspicion of nepotism for our voice actor could have been the result of the gender balancing.

    Read more about this journalistic uncovery Here
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    Last edited by LilithRose; 04-02-2024 at 12:18 AM.

  7. #677
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    That would imply I take you and the arguments seriously. (◉‿◉)
    Lord knows the devs clearly don't, so why should I? ( ♡´艸`)
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  8. #678
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilithRose View Post
    Nepotism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrForester View Post
    nepotism
    nĕp′ə-tĭz″əm
    noun
    the practice among those with power or influence of favouring relatives, friends, or associates, especially by giving them jobs.

    That is the argument Lilith is trying to make even if you disagree with it.
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    Last edited by Mosha; 04-02-2024 at 12:36 AM. Reason: copied the wrong definition

  10. #680
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    nepotism
    nĕp′ə-tĭz″əm
    noun
    the practice among those with power or influence of favouring relatives, friends, or associates, especially by giving them jobs.

    That is the argument Lilith is trying to make even if you disagree with it.
    And nepotism has nothing to do with their rage against diversity and SBI. It's just a word they're throwing around to try and denigrate an Actress.
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