Quote Originally Posted by Nadda View Post
No, my coverage was sufficient. You don't even need the Third Encylopedia for that information you think I missed.
No, your coverage was biased and left out what Venat actually did. It's essentially a lie by omission.

Also, unfortunately, we're dealing with a game where a hefty portion of context and stories and character development happen in supplemental materials and online short stories provided by the game's developers. It's something I actually do not enjoy about XIV, since it requires extra purchases and reading beyond what's shown in the game.

You're welcome to disagree with me or with anyone, but if you disagree with what's explicit within the game and all of its associated stories, then you're making a fan theory, not covering the story.

Also, it reads that way 100% of the time even without the extra context, because it is a part of Venat's character that she, in fact, reads her own civilization in bad faith believing them to be beneath her to the point that she makes it her new life fulfillment to help them until they don't need her anymore. She tells the WoL as much on the rampart scene when she asks the WoL about the adventures that they personally enjoyed the most. Of course, I wouldn't blame you for missing it, since it's a one on one scene that spends the majority of screen time focused on Venat's eyes and facial expressions while she garnishes what she's saying in flowery language and proclamations of loving mankind.


Your own assertions of the Ancient Ascians being hubristic, and that the story had reasonable enough justifications for their extermination is laughable at best. Rather, it is Ancients like Venat and Hermes who were hubristic, believing themselves to stand above and apart from everyone else in their society, and then acting outside of that society's laws and customs that caused their downfall.

Venat by withholding information, stealing godmaking rituals, and then sacrificing her own followers to herself (and then, of course, executing her own people). Hermes by making Meteion to explore outer space and find not just one other civilization to ask how they live, but apparently all other civilizations as well.

Venat was pride. Hermes was ambition. Athena was both. And all three of these people hid their beliefs, motives, and desires from all the rest of the world. None of them were justified or could ever be justified.