Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[Pip_Chick]

You bet I did!
After the second fanfest (iirc? :'>) we had so many interesting discussions, and I continue to think about what want da girl to be like.
Although the main idea is still the black coeurl, as far as the tribe is concerned, I am slowly but surely continuing to lean towards the Helions. First of all, as was mentioned in her story, the queen/queen's heiress disappeared and wasn't killed in front of her or sort of (I don't want to think that anyone died again... ._. let's hope it remains that way, right?), and she does not give up her name as Helion, believing that normal life will be restored.
Secondly, just realized that I am a warm-colored person. Cold palettes are super... cool... and can always jazz up my dresser with them, but love how sunny (Got it? Sunny. I’m so funny today. Ahem.) these folks look. Plus, I found their round pupils to be just adorable, such sweet naive eyes!

Wait.. what is that about the heiress of the queen? Can you tell me where you read it, I like to have the whole Hrothgar lore on hand and especially read it! I must have missed or forgotten this point!

[ejunniim]

Can you tell me where you read it, I like to have the whole Hrothgar lore on hand and especially read it!

Oh, I didn't mean a specific piece of lore, but a story that I'm thinking up for oc! Sorry if that a little puzzling, wasn't my intention!
But, since we are talking about this, would say this seems a rather logical stage: choosing the next queen should probably take some time. I doubt the Bozjans are just waiting for one queen to die, then drawing lots for a new one or something... Perhaps the word choice was wrong though? English is not my first language, not sure if "heiress" is a term exclusively used in family relationships. Perhaps “successor” would be more accurate in this case?
By the way! I found it quite interesting how Misija herself mentions that her ancestor among the queen's maidens was "lowborn" and, for some reason, was nevertheless chosen. Would guess this was also part of the plan to create a "puppet queen", since it seems in a normal situation maiden of the royal environment have a certain influence and cannot be easily controlled...

[ejunniim]

If only the head was a liiiiiittle bigger...

I think I have seen quite a few people mentioning that their heads seem a tad bit too small, but at least for me, not noticeable enough to be a real complaint.

Honestly - and this is just my opinion which I don't insist on - but I like the way they look right now. Find it difficult to imagine anything closer to what myself was hoping for; not because have no imagination or lack criticism, though.
I feel behind this decision the following of the intended style, not a mistake that could negatively affect... After all, I played Elezen. They are a underrated race, too; at some point I realized that didn’t see any disharmony in their proportions at all, although heard from others that it seemed uncomfortable.
Besides *sigh* I just happy around that their head structure allows me to enjoy how cool their shoulders are-

[CidHeiral]

I think I have seen quite a few people mentioning that their heads seem a tad bit too small, but at least for me, not noticeable enough to be a real complaint.

I don't understand those complaints. Their heads look fine to me, especially compared to male Hrothgar heads which are hilariously tiny compared to their bodies.

[Allegor]

I don't understand those complaints. Their heads look fine to me, especially compared to male Hrothgar heads which are hilariously tiny compared to their bodies.

Not to be rude but even if I shrunk my Hroth to Wuk Lamat's height, his head is still bigger than hers, so it feels disingenuous to say only his head is small.

[CidHeiral]

Not to be rude but even if I shrunk my Hroth to Wuk Lamat's height, his head is still bigger than hers, so it feels disingenuous to say only his head is small.

Not sure what your point is here. Of course his head is still bigger than hers, his torso is also twice as wide. Doesn't change the fact that he's built like a Mario movie goomba.



I'm not even saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying it's silly to complain about small heads on the females and have no problem with the same thing on the males.

[ejunniim]

I wonder if there will be fur pattern on these fluffy patches of fur on the shoulders etc, like on the Hrothguys.

I would say, don't worry too much about it. Was rewatching the fanfest entry, and the unique details (tattoos etc.) for them are clearly present (not in the trailer, but another model was shown after it). But I'm also sure this applies to spotted patterns and tails too. Comparing some of the official art and the game model, it is noticeable that the location of the fluff on the shoulders and arms is different!

I don't understand those complaints. [Their heads look fine to me]

That's it, right here!

[ejunniim]

Just a quick update: wow, just noticed that in CG one of the models has an adorable gold piece on it, and bet it's their own!
I'm also interested in finding out if their tattoos have any meaning. In my experience this is possible, since the racial (and tribal) details may be such a thing, like Lalafellin forehead decorations of the Mhach descendants. Are there some similarities to the designs found in Delubrum?.. But this is my guess!

[Pip_Chick]

Ahhh, I missed so much great discussion!
@Ejunniim thank you for clarifying, was searching through my notes to find that, so it's good to know! (Don't worry about English, it's not my first language either XD) as for the successor, I think it was chosen from the previous Queen maidens. And Misija's ancestor was one of them because we can see her in the mural together with the others, not chosen from her status, but because she may have had the echo, leading her to become a maiden by pure merit of skill. (At least I think so)
I like their heads, I think they are cute, but would still hold for final judgment until I can get my hands on the benchmark *grubby hands *
I have looked very hard, but still cannot find any lady with fur marks, what I did find however, is that the one from the artwork that holds a gunblade has a distinctively different fur placement compared to Wuk Lamat and the trailer ladies. Her's being a few stripes on the shoulder with no connection in between them, while Wuk's are still striped, but connected.
I have seen the earrings, there is another earring on the ears of the trailer ladies if you look closely, but it seems like that one was silver (maybe is clan dependent?)
As for the tattoo, it is I think almost identical to that of the male face 4 (Lost). *Headcannon* It could be an old warrior tattoo bestowed upon the warriors of Bozja. *Headcannon over*
Or just a cool face exclusive? Regardless, looks good!

Edited because I realised I could just add the picture instead of making you search for it (in regards to the fur marks):

[ejunniim]

Ahhh, I missed so much great discussion!
@Ejunniim thank you for clarifying, was searching through my notes to find that, so it's good to know! (Don't worry about English, it's not my first language either XD)

Thank you kindly <3

As for the successor, I think it was chosen from the previous Queen maidens. And Misija's ancestor was one of them because we can see her in the mural together with the others, not chosen from her status, but because she may have had the echo, leading her to become a maiden by pure merit of skill. (At least I think so)

Two years later I finally returned to Bozja to see everything with my own eyes, haha! Had been there only once before, as a sprout, and didn’t understand much. Now reading field notes and more with interest! Invaluable resource

Regarding the reasons why the last Queen was chosen: this is quite an interesting point, but shortly before the expedition to the Delubrum catacombs I found out, apparently, her Echo abilities turned out to be... an unpleasant surprise for the Queen's Blades later.
They obviously hoped the new Gunnhildr, having completed her task, would die quietly and unnoticed, unable to withstand the power of Save the Queen. Or, perhaps, become an eikon whom they would defeat and become heroes (? not sure about this. Their motives anyway seem very vague...). But she endured, because Echo revealed to her.
Be that as it may, even after stopping one disaster, they started another, because the murder split the noble. I came across an interesting formulation: "...By blaming each other, they were unable to crown a new Queen."