Getting Into Sage & Need Advice

[Kacho_Nacho]

As with any healer, just learn to use all your oGCDs. You have a lot so they're easy to forget about, and pretty forgettable. But, you have way more than enough if you use em all in rotation.

Honestly, SGE isn't that different from WHM if you're accustomed to using Temperance, Asylum, Liturgy, Aquaveil and Benison to avoid having to cast, the main difference is that you don't build up to any damage using your free time-generated heals, you just use them to keep your team alive.

Make sure you use everything you have spread out over time, generally use the shorter cooldowns first (cuz they'll come back sooner, and you can plan the big things for bigger issues), and let your damn regens (physis, Kardion, and your co healer) do their work.

If there's no more damage coming, or the damage isn't going to kill someone, then it doesn't need to be healed immediately. This lets you save spot healing tools like Addersgall (or Soteria/Krasis if your creative) to save that one guy that keeps getting hit by dodgeable stuff in a pinch.

Edit: oh, and Haima. See? I'm forgetting them too. No, your tank doesn't have to be the target of Haima. Most fights your tank can honestly keep themselves alive better than anyone else. And compare level 78+ Kerachole to Ixichole. Kerachole does 10%miit and 500 potency over 15 seconds while Ixo is just 400 all at once. Unless you really need the burst healing (or may as well cuz you're gonna cap on Addersgall anyways), there's a clear winner here and it's not healers that like to have to make interesting decisions.

One more thing, in dungeons, only your tank really gets hit for trash packs, so use your AoE oGCDs just for the tank if it saves you from having to hard cast. Panhaima/Holos are just sitting there, otherwise.

I really like your post because it reflects my experience and decision making while healing with a Sage. People keep telling me that the job is just as easy or easier than white mage. But, it sure doesn't seem that way.

Frankly, Sage feels like a hyperactive scholar, without a fairy, with weaker shields. Is it supposed to be so busy?

My tanks died a couple times yesterday and I don't think that would have happened if I had been on white mage. But, that's part of the learning process, isn't it?

If you learn more by doing, i would advise you to do low level dungeons ( with npcs or players).
It's easier to learn/practise/test your abilities in a down-scaled environment.
- You also have The Palace of the Dead as an option.

Palace of the Dead is an interesting option because I been wanting to reach floor 200 for a long time. Does Sage do enough damage to solo PoTD?

[IceBlueNinja]

I really like your post because it reflects my experience and decision making while healing with a Sage. People keep telling me that the job is just as easy or easier than white mage. But, it sure doesn't seem that way.

Frankly, Sage feels like a hyperactive scholar, without Eos, and weaker shields. Is it supposed to be so busy?

My tanks died a couple times yesterday and I don't think that would have happened if I had been on white mage. But, that's part of the learning process, isn't it?

This can factor into several things. Are the tanks even using cool downs properly? Are the tanks gear properly? Is it a darknight? cause honestly gnb/paladin and ofc warrior have so much crazy self heal you never really have to be in a spot to press heals on them unless its very low lvl dungeon content like 45 or below. You can pop soteria during trash pulls to increase your aoe potency by 70% (use kerachole always if its 76+) dungeons with physis and time pani/hami as well. Remember do not be afraid to use pani/hami even if some how all the shields did not got eating up. Once more just take your time and experiment with the ai if needs be like Post suggested.

[Supersnow845]

I really like your post because it reflects my experience and decision making while healing with a Sage. People keep telling me that the job is just as easy or easier than white mage. But, it sure doesn't seem that way.

Frankly, Sage feels like a hyperactive scholar, without a fairy, with weaker shields. Is it supposed to be so busy?

My tanks died a couple times yesterday and I don't think that would have happened if I had been on white mage. But, that's part of the learning process, isn't it?



Palace of the Dead is an interesting option because I been wanting to reach floor 200 for a long time. Does Sage do enough damage to solo PoTD?

The best way I can describe it is that WHM feels different from the other 3 in that WHM focuses very strongly on brute forcing your healing with strong heals that hit in one shot and shoot the Health of the tank back up while the other 3 take a “stem the flow” approach

SGE rewards you stacking regens onto the tanks over time rather than doing big hits, so instead of you casting cure 2/afflatus solace and watching the tank go from 30%->70% you instead have 3 regens ticking on them so their HPS is either not dropping at all or is only dropping very slowly

If your comparison is WHM then yeah try not to imagine that kinda big on hit healing because that’s really not what SGE does, in general it shouldn’t be terribly high APM, SCH is the more complex of the 2 shield healers so if you are feeling SGE is more complex you might not have gotten a proper hold of the skills yet

[Kacho_Nacho]

*snippity snip* you might not have gotten a proper hold of the skills yet

Ain't that the truth?