7.0 Healer Wishlist

[Supersnow845]

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I’m actually sitting here trying to figure out if you thinking kardia and embrace constituting class difference is you arguing in bad faith or because you don’t actually know any better, the only remotely meaningful difference between SGE and SCH is different prioritisation of heals because of energy drain

Same as the tank difference, do you honestly believe that bloodwhetting/holy Shelton/heart of corrundum weren’t made overpowered precisely because TBN dominated in ShB compared to the old forms

So yes I’m actually genuinely curious if you consider flavour fluff meaningful differences or if you aren’t arguing in good faith

im inclined to think you and Super/Amdreas are the same person (maybe alts?) with these easy examples to tear apart no originality much like your claim of homogenization, PLD, WAR & DRK are still different regardless of one or some similar skills also yoshi-p is getting lazy AF

Hey nizzy apparently you are my alt buddy now, that’s cute

[RyanCousland]

I’m actually sitting here trying to figure out if you thinking kardia and embrace constituting class difference is you arguing in bad faith or because you don’t actually know any better, the only remotely meaningful difference between SGE and SCH is different prioritisation of heals because of energy drain
Same as the tank difference, do you honestly believe that bloodwhetting/holy Shelton/heart of corrundum weren’t made overpowered precisely because TBN dominated in ShB compared to the old forms
So yes I’m actually genuinely curious if you consider flavour fluff meaningful differences or if you aren’t arguing in good faith

can sch do anything without the fairy? the answer to that riddle is no, no it can not, this isnt flavor fluff its a paramount feature to its design im honestly surprised this concept as well as others is lost on you, if you want to focus all your time and argument resting on one skill then i have to say its a weak argument and is more representative of who is arguing in bad faith

now onto the tanks what in your mind makes you think any of those skills are devoid of any distinction? like seriously talk about bad faith, HC doesnt require a gauge, and neither give a Dmg skill based on dmg taken unlike TBN these alone are enough to dismiss this example of them being similar as well illustrates that you dont know what youre talking about unless youre gonna harp on the "but the CD & them being overpowered"......ok does that change their function? again no it does not

[Supersnow845]

can sch do anything without the fairy? the answer to that riddle is no, no it can not, this isnt flavor fluff its a paramount feature to its design im honestly surprised this concept as well as others is lost on you, if you want to focus all your time and argument resting on one skill then i have to say its a weak argument and is more representative of who is arguing in bad faith

now onto the tanks what in your mind makes you think any of those skills are devoid of any distinction? like seriously talk about bad faith, HC doesnt require a gauge, and neither give a Dmg skill based on dmg taken unlike TBN these alone are enough to dismiss this example of them being similar as well illustrates that you dont know what youre talking about unless youre gonna harp on the "but the CD & them being overpowered"......ok does that change their function? again no it does not

And why does the fairy being out or not change literally anything, you are never going to not have the fairy out unless you are dissipating, you can’t even argue SCH has the niche of being a totem healer anymore since all of SGE’s heals hit the next instance over anyway, it’s almost impossible to miss anyone with physis

The skills are devoid of distinction because they do literally the same thing, mitigate a percentage amount of damage then provide a form of healing, what’s the point of flavour differences when they do the same thing in practice

I could also circle this back to healers, who cares that eos can totem heal embrace when physis does exactly the same thing with a different duration for flavour differences

If the buttons are pressed at the same time to achieve the same thing using the same method then they are functionally the same button, soil being a ground AOE vs the buff on kerechole is another example, hell besides the whole energy drain the addersgall system being “hey it’s not 60 seconds for 3 stacks it’s 1 stack every 20 seconds” is just pointless fluff

If you wanna argue these constitute meaningful class differences then go ahead, but they don’t come remotely close for me

[RyanCousland]

And why does the fairy being out or not change literally anything, you are never going to not have the fairy out unless you are dissipating, you can’t even argue SCH has the niche of being a totem healer anymore since all of SGE’s heals hit the next instance over anyway, it’s almost impossible to miss anyone with physis

The skills are devoid of distinction because they do literally the same thing, mitigate a percentage amount of damage then provide a form of healing, what’s the point of flavour differences when they do the same thing in practice

I could also circle this back to healers, who cares that eos can totem heal embrace when physis does exactly the same thing with a different duration for flavour differences

If the buttons are pressed at the same time to achieve the same thing using the same method then they are functionally the same button, soil being a ground AOE vs the buff on kerechole is another example, hell besides the whole energy drain the addersgall system being “hey it’s not 60 seconds for 3 stacks it’s 1 stack every 20 seconds” is just pointless fluff

If you wanna argue these constitute meaningful class differences then go ahead, but they don’t come remotely close for me

the fairy literally changes everything like come on man im not even a sch main(outside of pvp..well its more of a 2nd but still) but even i can understand this much also youre dismissing sch buffs as well as being glib with the potency of the skills between sch & sge as well as undermining the value of differing party comps that work better with a sch than a sge. obviously this is a difference of opinion you see everything as similar i understand that and i can even agree to an extent but it simply that theres a limit to how similar the jobs are and whether they share a skill or two doesn't dismiss how different they are, if you wanna call it fluff by all means thats your opinion

[RyanCousland]

I’m actually sitting here trying to figure out if you thinking kardia and embrace constituting class difference is you arguing in bad faith or because you don’t actually know any better, the only remotely meaningful difference between SGE and SCH is different prioritisation of heals because of energy drain

Same as the tank difference, do you honestly believe that bloodwhetting/holy Shelton/heart of corrundum weren’t made overpowered precisely because TBN dominated in ShB compared to the old forms

So yes I’m actually genuinely curious if you consider flavour fluff meaningful differences or if you aren’t arguing in good faith



Hey nizzy apparently you are my alt buddy now, that’s cute

also you might wanna look up the definition of terse as i intentionally gave a summary of these "flavor fluff" examples because thats the bare minimum i need to go, if yopu wanna go into detail by all means bring up everything you can think of between SGE & SCH and we can go tit for tat