Instanced Housing

[HeyMcFly]

That's funny because many MMOs have instanced housing. And I'm already alone because the so-called "neighborhood" in XIV is a ghost town, lol.

I'm with you.
I did see 1 person in a housing ward a few days ago. They were AFK.
Do you think that's the neighborhood feel people are talking about? That MMO experience?
Or- If the MMO experience isn't related to housing, then why should it matter if we want to have a house instance all to ourself?
There are apartments, but they give very limited range- are as limited in customizing, just way less than houses already- and have the same empty/ ghost town feel as house wards.

Or is the neighborhood feel the part where FCs give gil to players who copy+paste nsfw prompts and have players pay them for erp? I'm not holding judgement over anyone for how they do things, but when people say neighborhood feel, I've yet to see anyone give examples of what they mean.
Or do they mean the neighborhood feel of being forced to look at other players ugly creations?
Want a nice view for your house? sorry, there's a giant eyesore owned by someone who is obsessed with hot pink and hingan houses. And better yet, their plot is always empty - inside and out and noone is ever home to say hello.

Folks can suggest "Well, dont own a home in ffxiv!" So, we're not actually going to address the issue?
Just dance around the fact the only reason the housing isn't changing anytime soon is because of subscriptions?
While The dev team could actually tie in subscriptions to owning instanced homes without ever giving them better features, but imo if the basis of our activity to own a home is also one of the links to an active subscription; I believe there should be more emphasis on improving the housing wards and housing features. Yoshi-P has said adding more house features will be looked into - but no other mentioning of it. Back when stormblood was new, he brought up the possibility of giving apartments size upgrades.

[Ravenblade1979]

You arent wrong that the "neighborhood feel" idea has tanked, but you are miss-attributing the cause. True grandfathered houses never accounted for even 1% of the total number of houses in game(and the number has only gone down in the 5 years since that choice was made), and the last census i saw put "shell FCs"(i believe their definition was less then 4 members) between 3 and 5 percent. And while ive never seen a meaningful effort to quantify "player houses empty only being kept as a status symbol by people who don't even play", im prepared to write that off too. The reason theres no "neighborhood feel" is that youve taken the houses and spread them out too far. Ul Dah, Gridania, Limsa, Kugane and Ishgard each have 30 different wards, and people in the subdivision dont see people in the main division unless they use the aethernet to switch over(and vice versa). Do the math, and that means that the houses we have are currently divided over 300 different locations per server. Thats too spread out for any area to feel busy unless theres a specific reason(venue, etc) to be there.

Too spread out? No such thing. Also don't discount anything I mentioned cause it's all true. Unless you like rose colored glasses.

I say charge a couple dollars extra on monthly sub to show people they will have a instanced house and instanced fc. Set the player visitation to like 200.

Then allow the fc workshop to be used to upgrade the plot/house size. Can even add a smaller workshop with same feature if you don't got a fc.

Issue actually solved

[LianaThorne]

Too spread out? No such thing. Also don't discount anything I mentioned cause it's all true. Unless you like rose colored glasses.

I say charge a couple dollars extra on monthly sub to show people they will have a instanced house and instanced fc. Set the player visitation to like 200.

Then allow the fc workshop to be used to upgrade the plot/house size. Can even add a smaller workshop with same feature if you don't got a fc.

Issue actually solved

Hard no on charging more money for anything related to instanced housing. We already pay monthly + retainers + any cash shop items. They don't need any more avenues to get money out of people, there are plenty.

[Eraden]

Mao would quit game if Mao were to be charged more moneys for has house.

[Yuniko]

Mao would quit game if Mao were to be charged more moneys for has house.

Yep. *hugs tightly* Don't worry little Mao. <3

[Divinemights]

That's funny because many MMOs have instanced housing. And I'm already alone because the so-called "neighborhood" in XIV is a ghost town, lol.

Does other MMORPG has a place called Limsa Lominsa?
Most of MMORPG offers a new player hub in each expansion; the best example would be World of Warcraft
The main cities are not deserted only because Blizzard enforced AH House only available in main cities.

However, when you take a look at FF14, each FF14 expansion main city not only offer Markeboard but Inn as well
Yet, fully functional new player hub still unable to attract people offLimsa Lominsa
Limsa Lominsa is so special that all people just stay there therefore I don't think it is fair to thinks Neighborhood idea is a failure.
Like right now, Limsa Lominsa clearly out populated Old Sharilyan

FYI, when Housing first installed for FC only aned Limsa Lominsa still not a thing, most people hang around marketboard near their own FC

[Palin]

Does other MMORPG has a place called Limsa Lominsa?
Most of MMORPG offers a new player hub in each expansion; the best example would be World of Warcraft
The main cities are not deserted only because Blizzard enforced AH House only available in main cities.

However, when you take a look at FF14, each FF14 expansion main city not only offer Markeboard but Inn as well
Yet, fully functional new player hub still unable to attract people offLimsa Lominsa
Limsa Lominsa is so special that all people just stay there therefore I don't think it is fair to thinks Neighborhood idea is a failure.
Like right now, Limsa Lominsa clearly out populated Old Sharilyan

FYI, when Housing first installed for FC only aned Limsa Lominsa still not a thing, most people hang around marketboard near their own FC

Well, there is no other city hub with less steps between aetherite and market board then limsa, so it's convinient
Also for whatever reason world visit system only works in starter cities so even if i want to hop from world to world in Sharlayan for my marketboard spree, i cannot really do that.

[Veritas-Ancora]

I want instanced housing because the neighborhood system is depressing. What's the point? The whole thing is empty. I never see my neighbors.

That really is the problem. I don't know how my neighbors haven't lost their houses by now.

[Jojoya]

That really is the problem. I don't know how my neighbors haven't lost their houses by now.

Because they're entering them when you're not standing in the ward to see it.

That is the ultimate flaw with wards that prevent them from feeling like the intended neighborhoods.

[Ravenblade1979]

Hard no on charging more money for anything related to instanced housing. We already pay monthly + retainers + any cash shop items. They don't need any more avenues to get money out of people, there are plenty.

Lol except cash shop is OPTIONAL. So really you need to drop that and trust me. Alot of us would pay a few dollars more.

Also guessing you in usa. I'm in canada and pay way more then you folks do for the ffxiv sub and retainers. So if I'm willing to pay a few bucks more then that's saying something.

Actually could probably bet you the universe that the game wouldn't really lose any players over this if it happened and not lose lol.